916 Varese Bikes - I Just Don't Get It - But I'm Coming Around

Discussion in '748 / 916 / 996 / 998' started by West Cork Paul, Jun 19, 2020.

  1. Just got a twin today for my 94. It really was a barn find. It’s been sitting in a barn for the last 20 year untouched.
    It’s a bit rough around the edges. But still got all the original early bits even still got the rivets on the panels. screen is original but missing all but one lone rivet. 04BA7A27-91A9-4B2F-964E-071AE0CA6749.jpeg I’ll leave it in the garage for now until I eventually start sorting it out
     
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  2. Has anyone determined what the last 916 strada built at the Varese factory is?

    Anything later than a January 95 production date? Or later than serial number 2674?
     
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  3. We know that production of both Biposto and Strada machines had resumed at Bologna in the first week of Jan '95 based on delivery of bikes to the UK (see Akorenika's post earlier in the thread). So it's highly likely that the few half-finished bikes leftover at the factory down the road would have been completed before the end of the month. No doubt with much yelling from bosses about how far behind schedule they were!
    Falloon's table shows us numbers, but not specific dates. If anyone would know the exact last serial number to come out of Varese, it would be him.
     
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  4. lets see a later one please !

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  5. If I'm going to pay $33K(!) for a base model Strada that happens to have a V in the VIN, it'd better have an elephant on the windscreen. Turn signal broken off and fairing damage as well? Sheesh. "They're only original once."

    I think folks with more money than sense got a bit carried away there.
     
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  6. Theyre intrinsically and materially no different to my 916 built in 97. The only difference is that someone will spend more money to obtain it as some king of ego willy waving contest.

    However, Ive 25k on mine. Ive enjoyed riding it. These will be just eye candy for pretenders in the main. There'll be a few genuine enthusiasts though and for them I sympathise having to pay through the nose for them.
     
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  7. Holy crap! That’s stupid money for a 95 Strada… Did they build some SP while in Varese? :p
     
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  8. I’ve two for sale if anyone is interested in the two as one lot.
     
  9. Sorry to resurrect an old, but interesting thread.

    Seems like 916 #1 was/is a heavily modified SP1?
    * Ohlins front and larger discs
    * 6 pot front calipers
    * Carbon tank, airbox and runners
    * Mag wheels
    * Looks like racing mag swing arm
    * Small headlights looking like a Cagiva Mito

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  10. - Just hoping you can shed more light on the red fram black wheels 916 of 93 as I may have one ....Any info would be really appreciated
     
  11. @Syggs

    Hi there!
    These are the pics of your bike, found on your post on Ducati.ms. That’ll help the community here answer your question. 7EDC7A4B-3FA8-4035-B3D6-5333C935C55B.jpeg 4A789E16-DC2D-4953-AA95-9EABF5DEF492.jpeg 2B7944C9-C62F-4811-B1E2-E0A796A6994B.jpeg

    My own take on it? Looks like a genuine monoposto (see aluminum mono subframe), but somewhat modified: discs, brake hoses, windscreen, wheels, painted frame, painted mirrors (those were black unpainted on all 916), etc. are definitely not original and certainly not from the early 1994 vintage (e.g. 94 levers were not adjustable).

    Additionally, on a SP model, you would have more carbon (with MS Production yellow stamping), including the front mudguard, chain guard, under seat tray, air box for some of them (94-95 SPs, I believe). Another tell tale for a SP is two pick-ups on the left side and dual injectors. Do you have pics of the left side without fairings? Here’s a pretty good link to genuine 916SP specs:

    https://www.corsasbk.com/tag/ducati-916sp/?v=11aedd0e4327

    Again, contact Ducati in Bologne ([email protected]) and if you are the owner of this bike (they’ll ask you scans of the title and your ID, along with specifics pics of the frame and engine numbers), they will be able to tell exactly how and when this bike left the factory. :upyeah:

    The issues Belter is talking about are more about bikes of the previous generation (851/888) where valuable archive info was lost at some point (some say in a fire…). IME, their records of the 1994/2004 Tamburini era seems pretty accurate.

    I am betting on a genuine 1995 or 1996 916 strada (monoposto) and yes, it absolutely deserves to be restored! :) What’s the mileage on it?

    Edit: As far as a mysterious limited run of 1993 “Tamburini Tribute” red framed/black wheeled 916s, I did not see any when I visited the Ducati Museum in Bologna back in 2011… Wouldn’t we all have heard about it by now?
     
    #392 Guillaume69, May 9, 2024
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  12. That's brilliant thank you very much for taking the time and for such a thorough explanation. I have all the paperwork for the bike it has 2,287 kms on it so I'm looking at restoring it although money is in issue (aint it always) so I'm unsure I can do it justice and may decide to sell as is I'm not sure. I went on the forums as I didn't want to make the mistake of restoring the frame to the colour we all know if it was something different i.e some edition I had not heard about. Clicking on the links you gave have been a great help also so my thanks again
     
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  14. That's brilliant thank you very much for taking the time and for such a thorough explanation. I have all the paperwork for the bike it has 2,287 kms on it so I'm looking at restoring it although money is in issue (aint it always) so I'm unsure I can do it justice and may decide to sell as is I'm not sure. I went on the forums as I didn't want to make the mistake of restoring the frame to the colour we all know if it was something different i.e some edition I had not heard about. Clicking on the links you gave have been a great help also so my thanks again
     
  15. Surely frame/engine numbers would shed some light on it
     
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  17. Amazing ! Thanks for bringing this prototype story up. Everyday is a learning day. :upyeah::)

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    I absolutely do not remember seeing one of these prototypes in the Museum. Then again, it was 13 years ago.

    Still, you must have noticed they had no mirrors, no turn indicators, some rather funky « Ducati Decals » and the rear wheel was a proper 916 wheel (check the « Ducati Racing » script), which makes for a prototype that quite differs from the roadworthy bike you are showing us.
     
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  18. Additionally, look at the prototype exhaust: very different, clearly hand made, with all the bends consisting in welded sections. What a beautiful part!
     
  19. You must be slipping, Guillaume... those prototypes photos are on page 2 of this very thread :D

    Here's another from late '92

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