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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Duke, what are you trying to say - that she has listened to the majority of the people? You complain of this type of politics, very strange behaviour indeed :)
     
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  2. You certainly like looking back on what others have (allegedly) said on this subject, but choose to ignore your own statements made over the previous year. You got very antsy when I posted some of your quotes back at you, for sure.

    She should be commended for carrying out the will of the people cast in the referendum, despite her position prior to the vote, like many others in parliament.

    Have you written the charity cheque out yet for losing your bet? Or will you continue to ignore the question?
     
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  3. "When German Chancellor Angela Merkel and other leaders of European Union countries reached a deal with Turkey in March 2016 to try to manage the migrant crisis, they conceded far more than a down payment of 3 billion euros, it turns out.

    Merkel, along with Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, secretly agreed to accept 150,000 to 250,000 Syrian migrants directly from Turkey into Europe each year, according to the German newspaper Die Welt. Merkel, Rutte and Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu reached an understanding on the number through a “gentleman’s agreement,” Die Welt reported, and they did not reveal this number to their fellow European leaders or the public.

    Leo Hohmann, a veteran WND journalist and news editor, believes Merkel and Rutte kept the agreement secret primarily for political reasons: Both leaders knew they faced elections in their respective countries in 2017.

    In Rutte’s case, the secrecy appears to have paid off, as his VVD party maintained its majority in the Dutch parliament in Wednesday’s elections, allowing Rutte to retain his position as prime minister.


    However, the nationalist Party for Freedom of Geert Wilders surged all the way to second place. In the process, Wilders had forced Rutte to move further towards the nationalist-populist right to win Party for Freedom voters.

    Germany, meanwhile, will hold elections in September, and Merkel, although she and her Christian Democratic Union still lead most polls, has been losing support to the nationalist AfD party, which is expected to win its first-ever seats in the national parliament.

    “Conservative parties have already made huge gains against their globalist counterparts in the polls, and globalists like Merkel are trying desperately to limit the political fallout of their open-borders, mass immigration policies that have been going on for decades,” declared Hohmann, author of the new book “Stealth Invasion: Muslim Conquest Through Immigration and the Resettlement Jihad.”

    “Merkel has been going out of her way to appear conservative, backtracking on her previous plan of inviting the Middle East into Germany and tightening the rules on Islamists who have already arrived, even to the point of banning the burqa in public places. This is all window dressing meant to turn the tide of political momentum that is so fiercely against Merkel and her party. If she is re-elected she will go right back to work for her globalist masters.”

    Merkel’s secret migrant deal with Turkey
     
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  4. Given all that is going on in Europe, the one thing they won't mind is a good and long time friend leaving an organisation but still wanting to stay friends and helping with such things as intelligence, security etc.

    Despite all the posturing on both sides for the home crowd, this is more likely to be a chris and gwyneth " conscious uncoupling" rather than Brad and Angelina calling in the fbi
     
  5. Good. Business may have preferred to stay in the eu but something they like even less is uncertianty. At least now they can see something happening with an expected end time line
     
  6. Two fine examples of somebody doing the job that's asked of them, as opposed to ignoring the majority vote.

    Democracy plain and simple. Some you win, some you lose. Such is life

    Theresa May at least has the balls to get on with it, far more than can be said of her predecessor and any of the opposition 'leaders'....and I use that term lightly.
     
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  7. So, we notify the EU that Article 50 will be triggered on 29th March. Donald Tusk has stated it would then take “four to six weeks” for the other 27 countries in the EU to reach consensus and start the more formal process. Are they being a little bit petty by chance?

    Barnier is also getting ready for the outcome he's envisioning:
    [​IMG]Michel Barnier

    ✔@MichelBarnier

    #Brexit: 4th technical seminar @27 to discuss impact on customs controls & procedures. EU27 have to start preparing now for future controls

    On a more positive note: Editor's Notes: Only a lack of ambition can hold Britain back, says the Legatum Institute's researcher tasked with finding the upside of the Brexit vote | City A.M.
     
  8. Nob :smileys:
     
  9. Were you driving that bus duke? be honest now :smile:

    Lower growth is forecast for the whole of the eu but the U.K. will still have one of the highest growth rates. Another point here is the term "growth" and not lack of. Things are quietening down more to the slow down in China's economy worldwide also. The prediction by the bank of England for the interest rate for this year is 2.7%

    Much of this tumbling pound is nonsense. The night before the brexit vote, those in the city were so sure remain would win that the pound soared to $1.46 ish.

    Funnily enough only 10 days earlier it was at $1.27. it is now at $1.25 so when people say the pound has tumbled it has in fact dropped around 2-3 cents on the pound between June 2016 and march 2017

    A bonus to this false drop is that our goods are cheaper to buy so the footsie 100 and 250 have both achieved record highs several times, tourism has also done well no doubt aided by us being one of the safer places in europe.
     
  10. Will you stop, with all the reasoned facts and logic. :mad: We're all going to living under railway arches and drinking muddy puddle water because of Brexit** :Arghh:



    **I have no proof of this whatsoever, but will continue to post the same diatribe and refuse to answer any question on the subject for the next 2 years and beyond. ©dukey
     
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  11. What's with the miniature letters Rob you saving on ink :D
     
  12. Yeah, we have some tough economic times coming, according to some. :D
     
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  13. I just saw this on the Bloomberg site and am starting to feel that a lot of leaks are being arranged by the EU to toughen up European attitudes and preparing for the negotiations heading to court if we don't accept the EU's demand that we continue subsidising them for years.

    Note that the EU is talking about the rights of British citizens, this really underlines why we were not able to guarantee status of EU citizens in the UK - I understand 2 EU countries stopped an early agreement. All of these comments and attitudes just reinforce in my mind how leaving the dysfunctional EU is going to be the right decision despite them making it an unpleasant divorce.

    In a subsequent speech to the Committee of the Regions, Barnier said the U.K. “must settle the accounts” when it leaves and that it won’t be asked “to pay a single euro for something they have not agreed to as a member.”

    He warned that a failure to strike a pact would have “serious consequences” including greater uncertainty for U.K. citizens living in the EU, supply problems for companies, air-traffic disruption, tougher custom controls and no more circulating of nuclear material.

    U.K. officials question both the bill’s size and whether there is any legal requirement for them to pay anything. The EU side says a payout must be resolved before it engages with May over the sweeping trade deal she wants, and that it’s willing to go to the International Court of Justice to adjudicate the matter.

    The memo also said Spain estimates that the U.K. should keep making contributions to the EU budget until 2023, which may irritate pro-Brexit lawmakers in the U.K. who are pushing for a clean, swift break.
     
  14. I don't mind if we keep paying, if they keep subsidised agreements and investments in place for the same period.

    However during that time we can still go about running our own country.

    Every EU spokesperson just keeps sticking out their chest as though they're all doing so well, it isn't fooling anybody.
     
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