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Speed Speeding Fines To Rise In April 2017 - What It Could Mean For You

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Not Carl Fogarty, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. What these things do do is discourage anyone challenging a speeding offence. Because the penalty will be more severe, should you dare to suggest you may be innocent
     
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  2. The thing that discourages me most about challenging a charge of speeding is the likelihood that I was speeding at the time of being caught :)
     
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  3. Since when has committing the crime had anything to do with justice in this country? ;)
     
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  4. With the new draconian fines (revinue gathering) to be dished out for the heinous crime of speeding, even at 1mph over the speed limit. I was wondering if, and please don't come out with don't speed, if, there was anything I could attach to my vehicle to improve my chances of not paying this new stealth tax :Shifty:
    There was talk of a garage door closer that might help, but I know nothing about them, so, do they work, (at closing doors that is ;)) and which one if any is the best ?
    If not, I can see myself reduced to riding a restricted Honda 50 :(
     
  5. Don't know how they can possibly convict someone for 1mph over, loads of car's isn't that accurate and what about tyre wear etc, There must be an allowance % to cover this surely? My works Van read's nearly 4mph over at 30mph
     
  6. ride with out a number plate, if you get stopped just say it fell off officer i didnt realize.
     
  7. Unless you want a Perverting the Course of Justice charge then probably left well alone.
     
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  8. It's a good point, but as far as I know one could in theory be convicted for 1mph over in the UK, but the application of the law is usually more lenient than this, whereas the same cannot be said in France. I am not quite sure how the speedo inaccuracy allowance, from a construction & use or MoT point of view works (not that MoT tests involve checking speedo accuracy), but you can be pretty sure that ALL vehicles ship with speedos which tend to over-read somewhat (less than 10%) because it's pretty vital that they should not under-read at any time(which really could put you in a difficult situation - driving at a real 33 mph with indicated 30 would be a problem, whereas driving at real 27 with indicated 30 is not!). As tyres wear down, wheel diameter reduces so wheels spin a little faster for the same speed, and therefore the speedo will over-read to a greater extent as the tyres wear.
     
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  9. It's true, two people I know who were on separate speed awareness courses had a person on their course who'd been charged with speeding at 31mph.
     
  10. In a 20 zone?
     
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  11. I was done at a lofty 36mph a week or so ago. Again. Still, it's been five years since I attended a speed awareness course which means I get to go on a refresher all being well.

    Snapped here by a camera that's now moved to where camera is taking picture from. It used to be a 40, not any more because errrrr well if you put a digital camera thing here you're going to rake it in and reduce the hundreds of accidents caused by people leaving a built up area at 36mph.

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  12. If they'd been doing 31 in a 20 TT, they wouldn't have been on the speed awareness course.
     
  13. Threads merged
     
  14. Slightly off topic but relevant. It seems all the police are actually interested in is generating revenue. I was talking to a copper who told me that they are now riding round on public transport with cameras taking photos of motorists using mobile phones whilst stuck in traffic so they can fine them! What a ridiculous use of public money! Fair enough it's illegal but when my house gets burgled the police can't even be arsed to come round. Maybe if I offered them a £100 to come out and catch the thieves they'd make an effort to turn up!.
     
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  15. It's a simple case of cost vs reward that drives every single aspect of our lives these days.

    Photographing motorists breaking the law, catching them in the act, realises measurable results in terms of convictions and revenue, which bean counters everywhere will understand and approve.

    Turning up at your burgled property and telling you that it is unlikely that the perpetrators will be caught and prosecuted, is an unattractive proposition. Better to see near-certain convictions than protracted investigations which are unlikely to bear fruit.

    I don't like it, you don't like it, but the answer is to lobby your MP until his ears bleed in an effort to steer the police into activities that they are discouraged from pursuing due the stats culture that permeates public institutions.
     
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  16. Ive been called twice in the late evening within the last 3 weeks.. suspicious activity near the work place.

    One member of staff would not get out of their car because they spotted 2 young men wearing leather gloves on the shared/private drive.

    Someone took a photo and said they were spotted going into peoples gardens, checking front doors and looking in car windows.

    No doubt they are known to the police. What crime have they committed - none. Will anything happen? Not likely.

    It would be good if they paid them a visit early hours with a warrent but I guess that is bad practice.

    Yet it's ok to sit in wait or catch people on sections of road where the speed limit changes.. it's the law. How convient. Speed kills.. I thought it was the impact. Speed is inappopriate as defined by the limit but there are usually other factors.. at 3am on the M1.. B roads in the middle of no where with little traffic. The fines out weight fines for other offences it would seem.. something is wrong. It is a cash generator and saying don't speed is not going to tackle those times you don't know where you are and are concentating on the road.. as you should be. Being caught for doing 5mph over a limit should not be an issue.. if the person has their eyes on the road not a speedo.

    I was hit by a car as a child and I still don't buy it... excess speed should be properly excessive.. I dont care if the stopping distance reduces... it would with better tyres, ambient temp, a driver more alert thats better rested... there are lots of things that can reduced risk.

    Last year someone jumped the fence at night, entered the building and stole a purse. This is not London. It is a small town in Northamptonshire... and so it goes on. Bike theft in London seems quite rampant.. videos on youtube, push bike in road. Rider jumps of his motocylce to clear the way.. leaves key in. Kids try to take it..

    How long before someone in London breaksdown on something worth a few quid and ends up defending it.. I won't be riding my 998 to the ACE.

    I Blame the EU < Joke.

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  17. Excuse the slight rant. 1am work call. Normally up at 5am ish, no sleep. Bricklayers on route... all go, go slow.

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  18. Yep, seems you can get away with what you want these days. The only chance of getting busted is if you break the speed limit in the getaway car!
     
  19. Everyone knows that the best place for the fastest road riders in a group is at the back of the group! Stupid illogical car drivers :rage:
     
  20. listen, if you want to go speeding there's places for that, like trackdays.
    more tracks and trackdays should be made available. start lobbying yer local MP'S. :Smuggrin:







    i wonder how much attention is being paid to whats in front of you when yer spending your time looking at a speedo.
     
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