Paddock Stand for 750ss

I guess it all depends on what you want to do with the bike when it is on a stand.......

I use a normal rear (cheap) paddock stand for basic, but have made my own front (and rear) versions which allow me to jack either the front up and / or the rear as well......

Here's both....Front £10, Rear £0

AL

 

I made this one - does what you want. Just remove the front pipe. A small mod on sizes would allow you to leave the pipe on. You can access the oil filter and drain plug too. The length of the base allows you to lift using a trolley jack.

 

Best option for paddock stands are......................urgh! Paddock Stands!

 

With mine you don't need to remove anything......not even the fairing if you want to do the headstock bearings.........and if you want to remove the swingarm, you can stick the rear paddock stand in place, then the front stand, then take off the rear seat fairings and stick the rear stand in place.....then take the paddock stand out.

AL

 

Would an ABBA stand not do the job?

 

Probably....and add in the extra cost for the 'tippy up bit'.............but as mine cost me a total of £10 and a bit of my time, I'm happy that I have something that is stable and which allows most jobes to be done.....

......besides, I have seen two (I think, or was it three?) bikes come off Abba stands....both times it was when someone was working on their bike and gave it a bit large on a spanner....

AL.

 

Sounds a bit faffy. Mine can be modified as I said to lift the bike without even removing the pipe, all it needs is a little more clearance engineering in. Not rocket science. Mine cost nothing to make, just constructed it from stuff I had lying around.....................

 

Ah, but yours is on the engine....mine isn't.....drop out and leave frame standing complete etc.....no props or hoists...

AL

 

How pray, do you "drop it out" without supporting it properly?

 

How do you think? The frame and the rest of the bike is supported by the stands. Take header pipes off (as you would anyway) Small scissor jack underneath the sump (shaped wood block between sump and jack) Undo bolts and remove them......lower the jack and drag the lump out. OK? AL. PS.....I have taken too many engines out of cars and bikes to actually worry about how to get an engine out.....there are always shortcuts to make it easier.

 

As zimbo said - needs an 'Abba' type possibly - I don't know if SS is catered for already?

 

G'day Chris.....there is an Abba stand for the SS, but supervee's question about how to support the engine properly still applies even if an Abba stand is used. AL

 

of course AL (wink/smile etc)

EDIT - was answering O.P. chasp question btw.. (wink/nod/bow/grovel etc)

 

Mine is essentially your "shaped block" used as a dedicated jacking/lifting point and when bolted up the whole assembly is captive and balanced. In itself it makes any "short cuts" unnecessary. It is easily installed and by putting the jack at the correct point the entire bike is balanced and secure. In addition you can then lift the engine (with it attached) easily onto the bench for any maintenance jobs. I just used it to mount the engine to the vertical miller bed to facilitate the drilling out of one bastard barrel stud that had snapped off inside the cases.

I am surprised (if you have done as much engine/lifting work as you say) that you have simply made yours out of softwood battens and shelving brackets TBH. Doesn't look too stable or strong to me. Anyway, for every problem there are many solutions.

 

Well Sherlock (sorry, Supervee) you amaze me with your powers of detection inasmuch that from the photos, you can state that it is 'softwood'.

And have you ever tried to break a piece of 4" x 2" softwood 800mm long, bearing in mind in lots of houses walls constructed from timber are invariably less than 2" x 3" and they support other walls and floors which weigh considearbly more than a Ducati.

And by the way, if you are that knowledgable you should know that 'battens' is the wrong word for a timber 'stud'.....perhaps 'post' is more understandable to you.

I'm surprised you didn't have a go about the cross bar............perhaps you did actually recognise that is in fact a length from a 1" x 7'-0" long weightlifting bar......you won't bend that f****r in a hurry.

Plus you don't even know how the uprights and feet are joined together........and that you have ignored the extremely strong rear stand which isn't just ordinary angle iron (or M&S iron)........

So before you comment on the strength and stability of my stands, I suggest you ask nice questions to find out how they are fabricated.

However I do note that you don't mention where your frame goes when you remove your engine.....Perhaps you will enlighten us.

AL.

PS.....ever lifted a Ford Cortina engine out of the engine bay on your own without a crane or a hoist?

I'll bet not.........If you are nice, I'll tell you how I did it when I changed engines......(so basically I did it twice, one out, one in.)

 

Touchy today aren't we Arnie?

Not going to get into bragging rights here but your stands look unstable, faffy to use and very cheaply made, but you admit that. Paint doesn't hide the construction details.

Your "extremely strong" rear stand is just standard angle iron. Probably old bed frame, same as mine. The fact that it is being used in compression means it needs no extra strength that you might derive from higher quality materials. Plus the two triangulated "braces" on each leg are too short/small for the purpose intended. End of.

Battens, studs, posts WTF are you on about? It's wood....................of a certain size. AND THEY ARE shelving brackets....................on the front stand.

The frame goes elsewhere, on a bench, when the engine is removed. What did you expect?

Actually that's a lie. I attach it to an old set of helium filled balloons and park it up against the ceiling of the garage - takes up no room at all.

p.s. mine fills the brief - exactly - as the OP wanted.............

 

You obviously can't read.....Can't even get my name right........You certainly don't look at things properly.

My front stand can't fall over.......look at the way the feet are placed.........and then look harder........see the hole through the feet?

20mm bar goes through them so they can't fall in any direction.

Of course they are cheaply made......they were made to suit my purposes and my pocket......

...and they were made very quickly because I needed them in a hurry owing to a failed repair carried out by someone that was on here who shall remain nameless.....

However, as I said, what you can't see is how the upright is fixed to the vertical..........unless you have X ray eyes........which you might think you have because you reckon it is softwood.

Oh by the way, you are really showing your ignorance in real time here........Old bed frame angle iron most definitely isn't ordinary angle iron as any good engineer will tell you.......in fact, here's a quick lesson: bed frame iron is not intended to be in compression, it is intended for tension, which is why it is used for bed frames.

And again.....if you use your most effective eyesight properly, you will see the two braces aren't actually braces.........and they aren't intended to be..........

If you are going to be derogatory, please use the correct terminology.........'battens' are the flimsy bits of wood on your roof wot hold your roof tiles on (oh sorry, you don't have tiles do you?......apparently you have straw).........'studs' is wot hold up floors and walls (strong) and posts is a 'laymans' term for a 'stud', which is why I used it for your benefit.

Yep......10/10 for observancy....THEY ARE SHELVING BRACKETS!!.............Yaaay!!!!!

They are there to stop the upright twisting around on the foot, that's all

You should see the weight I have supported on those brackets (smaller ones) in my workshop......no sign of collapse....might pay you to invest in some, so you can haul your frame up clear of your engine on your stand thingy....(which is comprised of wood and old bed frame......exactly what you have just slagged off).

What did you do the welds with? A candle?.............looks bl**dy shoddy to me........

PS....I note you haven't dared to slag off the crossbars on mine.....wanna try?

AL

 

Damn! You got me! I know nothing. Clearly - Arnie. Or, perhaps, Shrek? Your corner of the swamp must be underpopulated if you think you're the competent one.

BTW exactly which hardwood did you use? Plus exactly what sort of "not standard angle iron" did you prefer? Keen to know so I can increase my knowledge of fabrication techniques and materials science.

 

OK Super-wee, if you want to get round to name calling (which shows your argument is lost).....

As you appear to be knowledgeable about swamps, you should know that the hardwood is Balsa............





.....or Keruing, which I'll bet you have never heard of.

And yes, you really should increase your knowledge of iron and steel....there is plenty on Google for you to research.........

...however I will help you because I'm sure your X ray eyes haven't been able to analize what the carbon content of my steel angle is.

Bedframe angle iron is cheap, has a very high carbon content and is very hard, prone to be brittle and breakage......and it isn't even made the same way as ordinary MS angle iron.

You should do some learning before you criticise other people.......Now eff-off and read a few books on metals and manners.

AL