British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. We are in 2022 already? how did that happen?
     
  2. Remind me how your forecasts have gone lately? :thinkingface: Just the ones of the last 18 months will do. :laughing:
     
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  3. ons, obr, ifs, oecd, imf, and the list goes on and that is before you even get to the 100 or so "think tanks" just in London alone.

    All of these groups regularly set themselves as the definitive voice and almost every single one have a poor percentage of accuracy. The thing to do is to take what they are saying/suggesting/implying as much of there claims will be full of could be, maybe, possibly, may, might, projected and then make up your own mind

    There is not a single one of those group who would ever give you a 100% guarranty what they are telling you will actually happen.

    As a balance, to dukes constant, my two arms and two legs will fall off but I will still be able to type doom. this is the alternative

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/8...-latest-Brexit-divroce-bill-John-McDonnell-EU

    http://uk.businessinsider.com/john-...lain-labour-borrowing-plans-2017-11?r=US&IR=T
     
  4. Maybe Dianne Abbott had his iPad at the time :grinning:
     
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  5. I don't have an iPad to hand so can't answer that one. Or Chatham House Rules.
     
  6. Lets for one minute pretend we're not all well off ducati owning tories and put ourselves in the shoes of someone living on the breadline (or dare I say it using food banks) after 8 years of tory austerity.

    Id imagine youd want to believe anything rather than see another 4 years of the tory party and the turbo cunts that infest it/vote for them resuming power.
     
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  7. dinna worry red, it will all come right, round about 2030. and by that that time we will assume the new norm and be grateful. :upyeah:
     
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  8. By which time the younger generation will be so hacked off with austerity ‘for their own good’ they will probably have rejoined the EU. :D
     
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  9. dunno mate, i suspect they will be happy just to get on with it without the uk constantly putting spanners in the works.
     
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  10. Nothing assumed and no need for other shoes. Not sure of the relevance of owning a motorbike. What is being exposed in the clips is someone intent on raiding pension funds and lying about it. That impacts a lot of people young and old, parents and children from all generations and backgrounds, bike owning or not.
     
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  11. You know, your assumption is typical of the angry from mr angry town in angry of angry country

    It is very easy to echo chamber "nurses on food banks" but if asked, no numbers can ever be produced. The assumption also, given more that we are a nation of over using credit, is that these nurses on foodbanks, who ever few they maybe, MUST all be because of the tories and not because they can't manage money so are in debt with cards, hp etc

    Still if your angry blaming it all on the Government with very few facts, it suits your purpose of poor presentation. Thankfully most people see through it and that is why for the last three elections, they have not trusted Labour, kicked out a third of snp politicians from westminster and if I may as you keep seeming to forget, austerity followed a little letter saying all the money had gone.
     
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  12. Let's remember 2008 and those responsible. B&B presided over the biggest dereliction of fiscal management in British history. And don't come back with the old "global" excuse. London was a major component.

    C&McD make B&B look almost plausible.
     
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  13. I doubt it, the young have little time for long term planning. They are very little than we were, when you are young, have rarely worked and have fuck all, you think everything should be shared equally

    Then as you get older, have worked hard for all you have gotten, you tend to want to keep as much of that as you can.

    I can see us joining the eu again IF and only IF, it returned to a trade organisation. The minute it goes above that is when the problems happen.
     

  14. Im not getting drawn into all your tory bollocks again mate but i will add i didnt mention anything about nurses and food banks, you bought that up.
    However if you wish to ignore the existence of food banks altogether i'll happily put you right, the fact they even exist is a blight in itself, the fact that tories sneer at them and/or refuse to acknowledge their existence does make me angry, yes. :upyeah:
     
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  15. Im sure our hard working nurses who never use food banks love the current government so alls well eh.
     
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  16. hmm, so most are managing to feed themselves. nice one :rolleyes:
    well seeing i have time on my hands.anyhoo. duke,red, yer not gonna get any form of acknowledgment that things are going off the rails where a different approach is required at home and re brexit.'and unfortunately i don't see Corbin delivering re brexit ether.
    when yer seeing some of the more resent posts from members i would of described in the past as reasonable people you know yer fecked. this thread is for tongue in cheek humor only.
    and this is bollox to. deffo an actor.
     
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  17. Not quite fin, It's acknowledged we have homeless, foodbanks etc however what is not accepted is the bland and blanket statements like we have loads of nurses using food banks, then you ask the person saying how many and where and they do not even know, that wanders into John Mcdonell, Diane abbot figures and literally fake news territory.

    It's a largely emotive opportunism rather than accurate is my point.
     
  18. The wee JO'By. LBC's silverspoon Mr Angry and don't do what I do....

    The food banks in the UK were established as a result of B&B's mismanagement.
     
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  19. Foodbanks exist because they are a novel idea which was imported to the UK from America in the early 2000's (when we had a Labour government). They expanded in the UK during the "global downturn" of 2008, (which happened while we had a Labour government) and they've been growing ever since, entirely because they're a neat idea. People who have fallen on hard times can get free food without having to take up residence in a doorway and frequent soup kitchens, and better off people get to feel good about themselves by dropping a packet of value brand weetabix into a special trolley by the tobacco counter in Tescos. And angry simpletons who have internet connections have one more tub to thump. Everyone's a winner.

    Inventing a new kind of charity and finding impoverished people make use of it does not necessarily mean that there were no impoverished people before that charity existed. Unless of course you're an angry simpleton living in a parallel universe in internetland, in which case you'll believe anything, as we have seen.
     
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