British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Putin Broadcasting Corp. At least it keeps him off the street.
     
  2. from the same publication.
    the authors words. nice to see they can mix it up as well as stir it up.
    But here’s the thing that my Oxford interlocutor and his like often forget: when it comes down to it, Scots have somewhere else to go. You can throw all the arguments at us about economic crisis and national solidarity and diminished global influence (I’ve made many of them myself over the years), but Brexit is rather queering your pitch. And if we decide you’re a bunch of dicks then we can grab our ball and go home.
    And here’s the thing: you increasingly look like a bunch of dicks. Brexit has cracked open the smooth David Cameron-esque skin of the Conservative Party to reveal a scaly John Redwood-esque lizard. I thought I understood the Tories reasonably well – I ran the Telegraph’s comment pages for the best part of a decade, for god’s sake – but I was wrong. The sheer volume of hard Brexiteers on the backbenches – Jack Aubreys in their mind’s eye, Captain Pugwashes and Seamen Staines to the rest of us – staggers me.
     
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  3. Have you got that bong out again fin?
     
  4. nope, not during school days. maybe the author was wasted when he penned it right enough . it is the new statesman after all.
     
  5. Probably exactly the reasons I've listed. You can't forecast what you don't know.

    If you're in the EU the past models used for projecting growth are likely to be re-used as there's not much that's likely to change in the short term.

    The UK on the other hand can't be modelled in the same way anymore and so you can only forecast on what you know, which unless I'm mistaken isn't much at the moment apart from doom, gloom and short sightedness.

    Frankly the fact that growth itself is still pegged in should be seen as a very positive thing, at least it's not brimstone and fire raining down which I'm sure will annoy some

    Also 'growth' is all relative. If you start off with a smaller economy then larger amounts of growth in percentage terms are likely easier

    Having said that they still may not amount to the same in £/€/$ as a smaller percentage of growth from an economy which started off larger in the first place. That's basic math though which I'm sure everyone knows.

    I'll simply leave it as how I started - You can't forecast what you don't know
     
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  6. tax payers money helping to subsidize a predicted house price slump in the south east?
    The stamp duty cut does show how desperate the Chancellor is to stop the slide in house prices in London and the south-east and may in fact buy a him few more months before the pending house price readjustment (crash) I predicted (two years ago) for 2018 hits.
     
  7. Unfortunately for some, there needs to be a devaluation period (crash) of house prices.
     
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  8. Sounds bigger though :)
     
  9. feeling totally chilled coroso,:upyeah: so much so i have been sweeping out the snow melt from me workshop most of the morning, brr, whilst even finding the time to over indulge on ere and start the crimbo wind down, not been the worst year so i can now just tick over till January. v.nice. thanks for the dram brw. :upyeah:
    yer right dammo, deffo, but i think its right if we are on the subject of predictions to point out the predicted fall in house prices that have been over inflated due to tax payer subsidized centralization, just for the uk tax payer to bail em out again. while having a we giggle to myself
    :D
     
  10. To be fair fin, that's not entirely true. The £300,000 stamp duty exemption for first time buyers is open to all who wish to buy whether they are in Northern Ireland, Wales or England. The only reason Scotland is not involved is because the Scottish government wanted to do things their own way in some areas.

    Snow? I've had all my windows open this morning, lovely.
     
  11. yip, it will only force up the cost of a house in London by the cost of the subsidy.
    the average house price up here is 150k London 450k. while the stamp duty up here LBTT is far more progressive, costs less for the average joe, a tad more for the wealthy and raises more in the way of taxes. all good.
     
  12. Quite. So why take such a massive risk? After all it’s generally agreed that Governments cannot organise the proverbial piss up in a brewery so why would now be any different?

    If you were in charge of a business and someone said ‘ I have a good idea’ ‘let’s make it more difficult to buy and sell from our biggest and nearest customer and go and chase Business on the other side of the world instead’ I suspect most would sack them on the spot. Even more so if you asked them how they plan to do this and they said they had no idea.
     
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  13. maybe we should start to approach this from a position, and turn the discussion around to where they, who ever that may be, knows exactly what their doing?
     
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  14. Using your analogy.... what you don't get is that it wasn't the 'Business' that made the decision, it was the majority of their customers. It's up to the 'Business' to respond to the demand. And while we're at it..those same customers didn't say to source their requirements from 'the other side of the world instead', they said 'lets get it from there as well'

    Edit: ...Oh fuck it....I wasn't going to do this. It's pointless. There's none so deaf as those that won't hear.
     
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  15. No it was the shareholders who made the decision. Not the customers.
     
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  16. Pot8o Potaato
     
  17. Again with the dukee lies. Honest duke, fin is starting to look like a star compared to your latest desperate rants, even your own sentence betrays your inability to grasp your sillyness.

    See if you can spot the oxymoron in this sentence of yours?
    let’s make it more difficult to buy and sell from our biggest and nearest customer and go and chase Business on the other side of the world instead

    How can you say make it difficult one moment, then claim we are chasing business elsewhere instead, make your mind up chap

    Where is the risk trading with the world AND the gated community that is the eu? We will still have a deal with the eu whether it is as an agreement with them directly or by wto, both will see trade still happening. Your continual scaremongering lie is seen by far too many for them to fall for this trope.

    After completion we will still trade with the eu, and now we will also be free to trade with the rest of the world without restrictions or control from the eu.

    As to shareholders duke, that is us and we were asked what next and we told them on a democratic vote
     
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