Well I guess it depends on the business setup and whether it has a board. If that board has a vote on the direction of the business and the majority of the board voted in favour then that's what they'd do. Perhaps part of that vote included the strategy of expansion in to new markets which would take some serious investment to do right, or maybe looking for new supplier partners which might also annoy some of the incumbent suppliers, these would be calculated risks put up as part of the vote. That analogy isn't too far from certain changes I've seen in my employment whilst working for who I currently do. One thing I will say is that patience, positivity and the good old 'can do attitude' are what's needed when you make such dramatic changes. You tend to find those that embrace change not only enjoy it but are the ones that really make things work, those that don't tend to either get left behind or bring the rest of the team down which ultimately ends in their own demise. It's sad but I've seen it first hand Ok I'm talking purely from a business sense, but that's what I see and have learnt over the years to be someone who is more than happy to give it a go as best I can. As long as myself and 'the board' all understand the risks and likelihood of failure within certain aspects, then let's just get it done with tweaks in strategy along the way. Nothing should ever be set in stone with big decisions like this as stubbornness to adapt to the unknown won't get you anywhere. There's no room for pride when it comes down to it, you simply change, adapt and keep pushing on. To coin a phrase from A Merkel, we can do it
There can be no risk of failure in the situation this Country is in. Which is why it beggars belief. To fail will bankrupt the Nation. Should any Government be taking that sort of risk on behalf of its population?
I can imagine you had you been around the time of ww2 duke...ohhhhh dunno, helping out europe sounds a bit risky, how dare the government.
Government being the overall business and the population being the shareholders? Then yes it should as that's how it works. There is risk in everything Duke. There is risk riding a motorcycle, there is risk in literally everything ever worth attempting. I'm not sure our country is in the state you describe, in fact it's not but that's just my opinion. There's going to be another financial crash, there's going to be another house market crash, both of which are nothing to do with Brexit, but simply a sensible and calculated opinion of mine given the course of history. Do I sit and worry about it? No, because there's very little I can do apart from just get on with the hand I've got to play. Optimism and can do attitude
For me personally I don't really give a shit if the Country goes bust but for my son's generation I do. I am too old to really have any great interest in it now. Public services are being run down to absolutely nothing due to lack of money yet the Government is about to take the riskiest change since WW2. I see Australia is saying this morning that Brexit won't work for them in trading with us either. The whole Brexit shambles is crass stupidity and I would take a guess that it may well keep the Tories out of power for a decade or more. Even floating voter friends who generally vote Tory and voted for Brexit are questioning what the hell they are doing.
You walk in different circles to me duke, I work in the construction industry and all I hear is, lets get on with it, call the EU's bluff and tell them that if we don't move on and start constructive talks on trade we will walk away. As for the insistence that we resolve the issue over the Irish border, it's as much there problem to solve as ours, it will be there border, we can leave it open and let them sort it out. Steve
And yet every day in here, sometimes multiples, your in here moaning about it We've covered that many times over, if we have a deficit then we are spending more than we are putting in or are not putting in enough. That should not mean we avoid every tough decision or use it as an excuse to deny democratic votes. There is a big discussion the country needs to have but it will not be until after brexit then when the dust has settled. We the people if we want more, then we have to pay more, but brexit is not going away. Fore someone who doesn't really care duke, that ^, has become your raison d'être. A vague statement with no link or fact to support it, that often is little more than pish Whilst the eu absolutely hates democracy and democratic votes unless it is in their favour , that is not enough of a reason to scrap democracy. Cameron making no plans to leave at all put the team almost a year behind and yes it's a massive change but putting things off because "aww they might be too hard" is the very apathy of politics than some who want to rule over us rely on. And there duke goes back again with the vague statements with very little or no proof. I could say you are more likely to find a remainer saying this has dragged on long enough let's just get on with it and get the best deal than a brexiteer saying I wish we had never started Take a chill pill duke, most brexiteers are looking forward to our grand children as most of our kids are already in their 20's/30's and had the vote if they wanted to show their opinion.
I don't think many understand the potential consequence of just walking away. Regardless it will create many many problems that will take years to sort out. Leaving the Irish border open one side and not the other for example. So goods can come in but not go out? We can buy their stuff but we cannot export anything to the Republic? What effect do you think that would have on business in NI?
Like i said it's not just our problem, the EU are insisting it is for us to sort out, it's just as much there problem.
If you mean walking away and working within the trade standards of wto, whilst that maybe an emotive concern of yours duke, almost every other country in the world that is not in the eu, deals with the eu under those very same wto standards. So what we have is project fear losing to decades upon decades of confirmed information that wto can and does work for most of the countries on the planet, but again I feel the need to remind you, this will still see trade between both sides whatever agreement is made As to Ireland/Northern Ireland. We have said all along that if the eu was no part of this, this could be sorted out very easily but as they are, from our side, we are as open tomorrow as we are today, we have continually said, this is not a problem. If there is any anger here then it should be from us to those lying opportunists to suggest if ever there was a hard border then terrorism would start again. Those are the dispicable people and most of those are on the eu's side. However their biggest concern at the moment is will the Irish Taoiseach they have now, be the same one in 2 weeks
Ahh right OK. Try telling that to the people with jobs in NI. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/07/brexit-raises-spectre-dearer-guinness-baileys
I'm quite sure they know for themselves that the border is equally the problem of the EU and the UK. Not just the uk.
The stamp duty cut only applies to first time buyers of properties below £300,000, which doesn't get you much in the south east, so I can't see it having much impact in the housing market overall. But don't let the facts interfere with your narrative.
Silly boy, even if we went wto, we, the UK can decide what we want to charge if charge at all. if there are any tariffs, it is likely to be first applied by the eu side. As to business, again there needs to be a reality, in that any business working within a democracy must adapt itself to that democracy. It is not for business to say profit for them is more important than the democracy of the country they work in. Again though duke as per most of your inputs they try to push, could, might, possibly, there is a chance, estimated, hell they even give a figure that doesn't exist but again as truth. Democracy relies on a countries people and not how many cans guinness shift. As with most of your selective , largely false and poorly supported claim there is one definate that contradicts them The U.K. has said all along, after Brexit the U.K. will be open for trade to anyone and everyone, to which the e.u. has continually said, not if we have anything to do with it you ain't.
