The thing, as many of has said, many remainers were too focused on us versus the eu. They seemed to be noseblind to what was and is happening in the eu. We mentioned the Dutch, Austrian and Italian elections, all have seem a rise in anti eu government sentiments, even Merkel who you can't rule out, has had her rock steady bullet proof status rocked. This again is highlighted by today with the Hungarian elections, again no fan of the eu telling it what to do. The Irish border is still a red herring, we have a good relationship with Ireland it will get sorted. Funny considering borders are important for the eu, they don't seem to think the Spanish border with Gibraltar is important or the Spanish navy's incursions important but two friendlies such as northern and the republic are This has taken far too long and could have been quicker and I suspect is Barnier's doing. We leave in 2019 at the same time Jean Claude Junker leaves his post as the president of the european union. I have always felt that the brexit negotiations for Bernier was more about his wish to be eu president rather than a beneficial to both sides agreement. By the time we eventually leave, the eu will be more than happy to have a friend on the edges such as the U.K.
What Irish border problem? https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ire...ing-ferry-launched-from-dublin-port-1.3468760 Dublin, you might have a lot of new people soon
Barnier was warning the other day that Britain might have a disorderly Brexit, does he not realise that if Britain has a disorderly Brexit then the EU also has a disorderly Brexit.
£31million annual deficit in 1970 helped Wilson lose the election. Today we pay £1billion a week in interest payments on the national debt and Corbyn wishes to borrow and spend more.
Or you could just make the wealthiest pay their proper share like everyone else. That more than anything else is why the country is broke.
The top 5% is a fallacy. look when Alan Sugar showed his tax bill and the £58 million pound cheque he sent to pay it off. As a average bloke, I will never ever pay one 58th of that let alone anywhere near it. We have touched on this before haven't we and my feeling is the self employed probably play the tax man game more than any 5% but what has this got to do with Brexit chuckles?
I am sure the wealthiest (whoever they are) pay the minimum they think they can get away with under the rules, just like the rest of us. If you want to simplify the rules and rigorously enforce those rules then I am all for it. But the idea that all we have to do is tax a few rich people and all our economic problems will be solved is just laughable. Someone on £70k is in the top 5%, hardly "rich" is it. Like all lefties all you want to do is spend other people's money because you think you know how to spend it better than they do, and you probably think they are arrogant.
I'm reminded of Labours discussion one morning on the Andrew Marr show I think it was. They had John McDonnel on and Marr said to him, where do you think the turning point is from paid to rich? I ask said Marr because yesterday you said it was £70k. McDonnell knew what was coming and said, "I meant to say £80k would be my tipping point". It was obvious someone during the night had said , "hold on john, us mp's earn £75k (as it was then but now £77,739), john by your own standards we would be the rich people you are moaning about." Made me chuckle that morning.
It will not solve all the problems but will go a good way towards it. I'm not talking about people earning £70k a year or £100k a year or anyone who pays themselves under PAYE rules. I'm talking those who gave two plus homes, those whose assets are offshore but continue to live and earn within the UK. We have had 8 years of austerity and its solved nothing other than slowly brought public services to a grounding halt. You can either sit there and accept the lies and propaganda you are fed, or question everything they do. Those who just accept it are their puppets and enable the wealthiest to get wealthier still at your expense. We are heading to a situation where the government will see and control every financial transaction you make whilst hiding everything they and their kind do.
Strange how anyone who disagrees with the Govt is a leftie but you believe what you want. It's all part of the brainwashing they are giving you.
Not sure where you get that from @johnv . Let's try some real figures shall we. UK government expenditure in the current year is around £809 Billion. Of that, the net amount spent on debt interest is around £30 Billion. That money does not disappear into a black hole: it goes to pension funds, insurance companies, savings banks, etc and is mainly used to pay out pensions, annuities, interest on savings, and insurance claims. It circulates around the economy to everyone's benefit. If the national debt did not exist it would have to be invented.
Surely that £30B would be better spent on tax breaks for business, entrepreneurs, etc ... people who create actual wealth? And 3, 2, 1 ... TRIGGER!
I wonder what you could possibly mean by "... the country is broke"? The United Kingdom has a total GDP per year of about $2.565 Trillion. This about $40,000 per head of the entire population. Government expenditure is about £802 Billion per year. This puts UK in the wealthiest top six of the world's major economies. Perhaps you are using the term "broke" in some special sense known only to yourself - would you care to define it?
So those people who create "actual wealth" often want to deposit it in a bank, or an insurance policy, or a pension fund. And those banks, insurance companies and pension funds need to deposit some of their money in a secure reliable investment with a steady return. So the government needs to provide a facility for taking in those deposits and servicing them for the benefit of everybody. And that facility is known as the national debt.
