British Indy: What Happens Now?

Big hands & an adams apple too... She's all yours to mount on the wall!

 

OK mount her in the kitchen?

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...immigration-free-movement-offer-a8326101.html

 

Yep saw that yesterday. You will notice it says a British government insider and little more, could be anyone but more likely to be, a made up storey by a mischevious reporter orrr something that has happened from time to time, a rascal lower level remaining civil servant.

Where project fear is no longer seen to be effect before the vote, the hard remainers, particularly in the higher ups are using an almost daily "it's going to go wrong" look for confirmed sources rather than mischief making

 

Will Parliament vote to take back control from ministers?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43951405

 

Them crazy lords just love making them non biding token votes that are not binding. On the plus side though, it's probably the busiest the lords has ever been

 

Its amazing how much Brexit has split Parties across the board and some will not cowtow to the Brexit hardliners nor their own Party leaders. Good for them.

I still wouldn't be surprised to see May forced to resign and another Election happen before this is all complete one way or another.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43960448

 

I'm not so sure, where Jeremy is Russia's "our man in London" the lords has become the eu's "Our people in London"

They feel they can take the risk of killing democracy because as they were never voted in by the public, they can't be voted out by the public, just the same as the eu comissioners.

The lords have nothing to lose or at least they think they don't, but genuinely they are walking a very dangerous tightrope and with a risk called the democratic vote. If they stifle, hinder or their ultimate goal of stopping brexit, then they would be seen to have turned their back on Britain, become the agents of the eu but more dangerous and like most extreme remainers, will continue the mantra of "you the public can't be trusted with democracy and we the better educated know best"

That arrogance, should they continue with it, is likely to see for the first time in Parliaments history in modern times, could see a whole revision and questioning of whether we need a house of lords at all?

Were I May around now, I would be looking to see about putting out a non binding nationwide vote to see if the public of the U.K. wish the house of lords to remain or be scrapped. The lords do not value democracy, they value 2 things, sticking it to the government of the day and their own self importance and a vote of reality to remind who the boss actually is, the public, might just be the push they need.

It might make them realise their time is coming to an end due to their own refusal to abide by the public's democratic votes

 

. British democracy.
aye, i can just see you and the all the other pensioners and bed wetters taking to the streets, waving yer walking sticks and red,white and blue weeny pads at the police in an angry fashion. goat that would be funny.
do it!.

 

the blue rinse's loz. the blue faces where featured in a Hollywood movie . about 20 years ago. the life your looking for went out of fashion some 40years ago.
anyhoos, now yer chance to march on Westminster loz, there's an uprising coming, a revolution. if only you can remember what it was you where wanting control of. old age is a bitch init?, ah yes, British democracy, when it suits yer needs of course.

 

i dont really think people dwell to much on what happened 311 years,22hrs and 15secs ago. .
i think its more, whats going on today that's more of a concern. but, i seen the poll jv posted on another thread the other day, Corbyn and labour are going down in the polls, it seems there is a majority in the "UK" that approve of incompetence, xenophobia and corruption. i say the UK, but when its broken down its only a country within the UK that approves.
while noob was as contradictory as ever in his latest rant i see the need for the HOL to go and replaced with something more appropriate, moving the UK Parliament north would be a v,good move also, might just save the union, too. and lets not forget, it is a union.a contract with signatories. this aint Spain, contracts can be rescinded.
here, have a wee tick tock on yo ass.

 

No contradiction at all fin and I thought you more than most would understand? Tepid governments encourage vagabonds, chancers, opportunists and verbal masturbator's. May's effective backroom staff style whilst on the front of house where she is poor, which we have discussed before, has allowed fragility within the U.K. government.

The prime minister of the U.K. by appeasing all these special interest groups, is losing focus and allowing the tail to wag the dog which causes more friction and lack of cohesion. She needs to be replaced or remember what job she is supposed to be doing and get on with it.

Why move the parliament north? just so your group of chancers can then say the tories in Manchester or the tories in Birmingham? I doubt very much if the snp government would move from Edinburgh to Govern hill if English voters said the snp in Edinburgh?

 

He's still looking for oil and those damn Norwegians

 

What makes a handful of Tory MPs think they can make an ultimatum to the PM?

They can certainly have a say but they are in no position to make an ultimatum. Democracy is about discussion and agreement not threats and throwing toys out of the pram.