An interesting credible analogy. Here's another view - not necessarily mine. A family have a market stall. They pay £20 a day to the owner of the pitch and on average make £50 a day from it. The family decide to give up their stall for whatever reason.The owner of the pitch loses £20 rent, so is worse off. The family keep their £20 but forego the £50 profit, so have a net loss of £30. The family/ ex market stall owner is dependant on life saving medicines that cost £20. They are in debt beyond all imagination (£I.8 trillion) and are now hoping that other market stall owners are now going to offer them deals which could cost them money... Just another view point to consider.,
if the life saving medicines are £20 how did they get in debt £1.8 trillion? Are they jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbot?
Except the UK isn't a market stall. The EU doesn't own any pitch it merely runs a protection racket to ensure no enterprising upstart sets up next to you and undercuts your prices or offers a better product. And only 12% of UK PLC's turnover is made up of trade with the racketeers to start with. And if the world's fifth largest economy were a market stall paying protection money to some oafs to suppress healthy competition, we only trade on that pitch one day out of eight anyway and no sane business would allow those same oafs to dictate terms or trade when they were selling on other completely unrelated pitches on the other seven days. Anyone who thinks that sounds like a good "deal" clearly has limited ambition or understanding of business. Or they've just got very comfortable getting fat on a rigged market while other people struggle and they don't want anything to change. Well tough. We voted, they lost and change we are going to get. This current regime may not deliver it but the train has changed tracks. You can slow it down but you can't stop it and its never going back.
And some people love this scenario and think they are trying to 'look after us' by being remainers - fekkin unbelievable really Us: Them: Thanks for viewing
Jb earlier you said this The lack of investment was not and has never been financial, it was the lack of investment of belief by those who think the U.K. is shite unless we are breast feeding from the eu and that we would fall apart without the eu.
Admittedly yes you're absolutely correct, the usd has fluctuated the most, but even still 1.33 doesn't stand out to me as a drop necessarily associated with any recent news. It's been circa 1.33/1.34 (depending on rounding) for the entire of June and very back end of May as well. Probably due to Trump and his decision to implement tariffs. Think he announced it mid May or something like that.
Gambling on stupid ideas form both sides of their families for as long as anyone can remember! Sound familiar? Recently Uncle Osbourne and Uncle Hammond have seen the family debts increase by more than 40% in just seven years. Crazy isn't it?
Bailing out the banks whether crazy or not (you choose?) was done by the other side of the family. Even during those terrible times Grandad Brown was unable to squander as much as Granpa Cameron and lately his bat shit spineless sister Theresa. Oh well they have bought a couple of big carrier boats for the navy - but don't laugh theres no 'planes to go on them... If you didn't know it was true you'd think someone on the comedy channel was making it up! Actually they did buy some other smaller boats too, but they don't work 'cause the sea is too hot!
See, I knew I could get you to mention the other side of the family eventually, bravo What seems to be the case at the moment is that the tories have more than enough letters of no confidence vote against May, but they are unsure/doubtful if they have someone who would get a majority vote of for their candidate from the party An awful lot of tory mp's however are reporting that they are getting a lot of constituants getting in touch with them saying they have been sold out and democracy has folded, I would agree with this. The Chequers agreement comes out on Thursday although a lot has been leaked and is seen by an awful lot of tories as this is it, after this there is only wto so the ball now is firmly in the eu court Daily politics today had a member of Irish brexit comittee Neil Richmond and Sky news had Mairead McGuiness Irish fina gael mep who is also as Vice-President of the european parliament, not to be confused with the european comission Both said when asked at Lunch time about the chequers agreement, the same thing. "It is not an agreement, it is a proposal for the eu to discuss" but both were uneasy when asked "given this is now seen within the U.K. as the last red line, you must be aware of the danger of it being refused or negotiated down further" both stuck to "we will see it when it is released on Thursday and then the eu will discuss it" More fun to come I feel
Another reason why I think that there hasn't been a no confidence vote yet is because the Conservative leader can only face one every year. If a the vote failed to oust May, we are automatically bound to her being PM for the next 12 months. The vote won't come until it is certain and then only if the Brexit fiasco is sufficiently agreed so that all the blame can be put on May hems head.
Whilst not big beasts so some may not see it as important, today two tory vice chairs have also resigned. Ben Bradley the vice chair for tory youth and Maria Caulfield the vice chair for women. As the leadership aligns itself more with europe than it's own supporters, I expect to see more of these types as the supporting roles are the ones more in touch with the reality of real voters opinions https://www.theguardian.com/politic...cabinet-boris-johnson-resignation-brexit-live
At the moment they will stay together and hope by the time the next election comes, those who feel they have been betrayed, will have calmed down. Having waited 45 years to correct a lie that we were only joining a trade body and then to have the leave wish denied as was wanted, I can't see too many forgetting.
