Silverstone*spoiler

Discussion in 'Racing & Bike Sport' started by XH558, Aug 24, 2018.

  1. Or maybe they have?

     
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  2. Been here before, in 1978:

    "Silverstone has also kept pace with constant demands for safety improvements by drivers, including better run-on areas, catch-fencing and guard-rails. The next improvement, in 1978, was the resurfacing with Dunlop 'Delugrip', intended to provide a faster (up to two seconds a lap for the Grand Prix circuit), and safer track. Ironically, the first race on the new surface was the farcical 1978 Daily Express Trophy. The race, well won by Keke Rosberg, was run after a prolonged downpour with the track awash, resulting in many cars sailing off in spectacular fashion. While this served to show once more that Silverstone was one of the safest high-speed tracks at which to crash, it emphasised that resurfacing alone was not the answer. Standing water still collected on the flat surface and it was felt necessary to repeat the rebuilding exercise incorporating cambering in selected areas to deal with the persistent problem of poor drainage."
     
  3. @chizel You do make me laugh bro! :joy:
     
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  4. Toseland and Perry were chatting, said it had stopped raining, they showed footage outside and there was no rain falling on the truck tops, so i assumed it had stopped, as that's what they said ??
     
  5. When they had the F1 there only a month or so ago they had tonnes of feedback from drivers it was shite and far bumpier than before.
     
  6. Maybe it did mate, I was just trying to stop the focus from others on it raining as that shouldn't be a problem.

    All I know is Herve (Motogp team leader and President of the IRTA) said that at the time no standing water, Duke (Multistrada owner and keen Brexiter) says otherwise..

    It's so confusing I just don't know who to believe? Two stalwart professional individuals at the top of their game, surely one of them is right...but which :thinkingface:
     
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  7. What are you fuckers whinging about? I had to stay up until 3am to find out it was cancelled, up at 8am this morning for an appointment, I'm shagged now.
     
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  8. Marshals were told all day it would go ahead.
     
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  9. Just read in the BBC app Sports news that Mike Webb, the MotoGP race director, claims the cancellation of the race was “a direct result of the new tarmac laid in February”. Pick the bones out of that one Silverstone.

    Someone tell me, Silverstone is owned by the BRDC but does it look after the day to day management and decide what goes on at the track as well ? Andy
     
  10. That seems to ring true with the official statement, which if you read carefully and between the lines suggests it was a bit of a stitch up by the riders and Dorna to a degree, especially when you consider what Herve said about the standing water not being an issue at 4pm or just before when he did his interview.


    After postponing the race start from 11:30am until 4:00pm, riders and MotoGP organisers finally opted to abandon the event for safety reasons due to the standing water present on the new asphalt, which had caused a series of aquaplaning accidents on Saturday, including a badly broken leg for Tito Rabat.

    “Firstly and most importantly I would like to apologise to all of the race fans for the most trying and foulest of days at Silverstone. I am truly sorry this has happened. If I had known fans would have to wait for six hours in these conditions with this outcome, I would have taken the decision to cancel the event at midday," Pringle said.

    We were willing to cancel the meeting much earlier but I was assured by Dorna that the teams were willing to race if conditions improved.

    “I’m very conscious of the amount of money people have spent on this event. We will be contacting all customers next week to explain what we are doing about the cancellation of this event.

    “Nobody is more disappointed by the outcome of today than me and the incredibly hard-working team at Silverstone, who have done everything in their power to try and ensure the race could happen.

    “It was not our decision to cancel the racing. This was a sporting matter not under Silverstone control and was a decision made by the riders and Dorna, along with the Safety Commission and Race Direction.

    “A plan was made at midday today in consultation with Dorna and Race Direction. We looked closely at the weather predictions provided by the Met Office with whom we were in regular contact all afternoon. The further delay this afternoon was due to the forecast of the rain subsiding, however the final decision was made without our knowledge or input. We kept the decision to race open in good faith, however this was taken out of our hands.

    “All the work we have done here to make Silverstone a better place for motorcycle racing has been done with the best of intentions. We will be making further investigations into this matter immediately after the Bank Holiday to understand whether our newly resurfaced track played a part in today’s inability to stage races.

    “We will be reviewing all the data we have on the track and gathering more, and together with the contractor, Aggregate Industries, a full investigation will be carried out.

    “Once again my sincere personal apologies for today’s events. Can I also extend my thanks and gratitude to all of the marshals, medics, security, catering, track and everyone else working on the event this weekend for their extremely hard work and dedication in trying to keep this event open.”



    It sounds to me that Dorna assured Silverstone the riding would take place if conditions improved, as he points out in his statement. But even after a planned race schedule starting after a track inspection at 4pm, prior to that even happening the racers and certain teams called it a day without their knowledge

    I dare say it was only 'top teams' such as Honda, Yamaha and maybe Ducati along with their riders as again Herve wasn't invited as he clearly said.

    I appreciate that standing water caused the issues during qualifying and continued all day until mid afternoon, but if an agreed reschedule was put together which Dorna clearly thought practical, I think it's piss poor that they held a private meeting without all teams and Silverstone present to simply call it off.

    This will get messy, I dare say they'll be a few lawyers involved over coming days and weeks
     
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  11. He said as much, surely and without need to interpret what he meant, in press conference last night that is on video (saw on FB).

    Followed by one form the ceo (or MD) of Silverstone apologising and saying all Booker will be contacted this week with an update.

    He didn’t say refund. He didn’t say offer. He said update.
     
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  12. They knew the track was dodgy and when they had the f1 there there was quite a number of complaints from the drivers. I can't see how they can refuse refunds as they knew they had a faulty product
     
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  13. If that's the case then Dorna shouldn't have lead everyone up the garden path imo

    Silverstone may have a surface issue, but was yesterday's reasoning about the surface in general or surface water?

    If the surface in general then Dorna and the riders should have been honest much earlier on.

    Instead everyone was pointing at the surface water being the problem, so when that wasn't (4pm as per reschedule) then they should have opened pit lane.

    It's just a massive mess that at the very least Dorna and Silverstone should cough up for all refunds.

    I don't think it's just Silverstone this time, yes perhaps an issue with the track they've had layed, but sounds like Dorna strung them along all day and then gave in to the riders for different reasons.
     
  14. Bullshit! The tracks are bumpy. Fuck me, they should have a run around oulton or Cadwell! BSB boys manage ok
     
  15. If they do a refund, i wonder if they will take out the £35 post/ handing fee i was charged.
     
  16. £25 parking. About the same probably for a couple of soft drinks and food during the day
     
  17. Why lay the new tarmac in February? It's rhetorical as I know it would have been the time of year that the circuit was used the least. But did nobody notice the weather in this country then and the effect freezing temperatures have on tarmac. Surely laying a new surface down in those conditions isn't conducive to a billiard table smooth surface once everything starts to shrink / expand. :thinkingface:
     
  18. From another forum .......


    £720 worth of tickets

    £1500 travel and hotels

    Down the swanny

    Conclusion the riders are all fannies
     
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  19. That's what I don't understand, yes some said it was bumpy, and then others praising the grip levels when it wasn't standing water.

    Riders revolt I reckon
     
  20. Another forum?! #mutiny
     
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