But, to be brutally honest, after the last two years of nonsense let’s just step out and deal with it! Had enough. And it’s the remoaners, not the govt, that have changed my mind and want really out! A set of blinkered, facist people who simply call names because someone dared to have a difference of opinion. . noticing yer comments on other threads, people from other countries But not the EU, any country? some you would rather not?
What he did tell me was that in 2016 Ford UK made IRO £800m profit in the UK whilst the rest of Europe lost money, and so the UK supported the whole of their European operations. In 2017, because of poor sales, lack of economic confidence and currency fluctuations the UK operations lost £800m (and the rest of Europe continued to lose money too). Ford USA apparently continue to be profitable based on the sales of the F150 and the Mustang (and profits are rising in the USA allegedly) and are currently supporting the EU production bases. Apparently Ford HQ is now reviewing all it's European operations in light of the economic issues and political uncertainty. Time will tell as to which way they, and others in the automotive industry, will jump.
So you are saying democracy is restricted to one moment in time...and only if it fits your agenda? And the answer to your question is that parliament would NOT be voting the deal down, they are leaving it to every individual who is entitled to vote to decide.
No UK manufacturer is as they do not have a clue what is going to happen. The Govt has pissed about for two years, trying to appease its right wing morons.
I heard this morning that Trump is changing the deal that protects investors from U Not really. Like Aus and NZ and Canada etc, if we have a skills gap lets go and find a resource to fulfil it. Whether its India for IT development skills, or Canada because we need lumberjacks, or Poland because we are short of brickies.
It's been a bit of a mixed bag really, given the european dependency on diesel and the fraud committed by v.a.g. and some other manufacturers has caused some hesitency on sales. PCP's have reached a plateau in line with most of the european debt and there is a genuine concern are electric cars the next diesel, i.e. saviour one minute and turns into the destructive some warned about. You also have the sanctions of u.s. versus europe and at the moment unless he is impeached, Trump looks like running and winning a second term. Europe itself is in quite a lot of chaos and whilst brexit itself is a very small part of that, it is a part I saw something the other day that suggested, ford were going to move their Mexico operation over to China, nothing to do with brexit but highlights companies are loyal to companies and not countries.
Not surprisingly people with common sense will disagree with you. The last two years have been about trying to appease the side that lost the democratic vote. Yes they have wasted that time as they should have gone straight to wto/free trade when they launched article 50 and everyone would have had two years to adjust.
the last two years have been about reinventing and rewriting the years events that preceded the other two.
Open to persuasion on the positive points for our economy; So put some links up please to companies looking to invest in the UK, that plan to do so on the basis of a hard Brexit outcome.
And for balance - https://www.theguardian.com/busines...investors-pulling-out-of-uk-after-brexit-vote
Interesting, but they are buy outs rather than new investment. 2016 as well. 2017 and 2018 seem to be more exit with Brexit.
Not entirely balance, that article with Branson in was in 2016 just 5 days after the vote and when the prophets of doom starting throwing figures of doom around like condoms as glastonbury. It will change the U.K. but isn't that what democracy was supposed to do, if something isn't right then we have an opportunity to change things? Jb https://www.economist.com/britain/2018/04/07/why-foreign-investment-into-britain-remains-so-strong Major names on the list of investor include manufacturers Tata Steel, Jaguar Land Rover, Honda, Ford, Toyota, Dyson and Boeing, food firms McDonald’s and Weetabix, pharmaceutical giant GSK, tech firms Google and Amazon, Barclays Bank and stores Lidl, Aldi and Ikea are also making expansion plans. Last month the Department for International Trade revealed that Britain attracted record numbers of foreign direct-investment projects in 2016-17, creating or safeguarding more than 100,000 jobs. Overall, the UK was the top destination for inward investment in Europe, with the technology, renewable energy, life sciences and creative industries all seeing an increase in the number of projects unveiled. https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/843740/brexit-news-boom-uk-economy-50bn-investment-new-jobs
Noobie, the 1st one I searched for amongst what looked very positive news; https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-h...s-klepierre-walks-away-from-bid-idUKKBN1HK0P0
Your going to have some companies leave genuinely because of brexit You will have some companies who scale down and redeploy to some part within europe you're also going to have some coming here just because we are no longer tied to the eu you're also going to have some come here because the U.K. has been kept back in the same way the smart kid is kept back to try and raise the dumb kids levels up, but now the U.K. can reach more of it's true potential, or at least more of it. What we have seen is brexit or no brexit, business will always look after business whether it is Trump versus the eu, Trade restrictions on China, some governments giving huge tax bribes to build a new plant, or workers paid peanuts in a third world country etc etc. Every vote has a consequence, democracy for business is an annoyance and yet every now and again it's helpful to remind business they are in a democracy As to the rueters link, one bit stood out there...Klepierre’s decision to scrap its unsolicited bid Brexit has been voted on, hopefully it will go to wto/freetrade or the tory government will fall for failing to achieve what was voted on and we'll see what happens then. Life has change in it, sticking your head in the sand saying I don't like change so lalalala I'm not listening, won't change change
Personally I think it's inconceivable that there is a no deal Brexit. It's plain that it's in the financial interest of all sides in the short term even if it's not technically some peoples vision of Brexit and it will happen, i'm certain. The last episode of "this week" before the summer break there was universal agreement from Portillo, Johnson, neil and the lib dem women that parliament would not vote for a no deal under any circumstances because the middle ground carries the votes by a huge majority and would simply send the uk gov back to renegotiate until there is a deal. So we can argue the merits of hard brexit WTO etc but it's pretty much purely hypothetical at best as is ref2. Neither are gonna happen in this current political cycle. The logic being that it's seen as sort of brexit, with a bit of remain so suits no one 100% but doesn't deny the vote 100% either. Even if you kick May out and a hard liner like Mogg took over, he still has to get the outcome through Parliament and they won't vote for his vision of Brexit. If there is a general election through a failure to get a deal, then Brexit is only likely to get softer under Labour.
