British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. And @J biker steps up to prove the crux of video to be entirely correct.

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    Superb irony. :laughing:
     
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  2. Come on, the bloke is just having a rant. Displays all the anger that he claims remainers have. That is REAL irony.
     
  3. FYO, the assumption that remainers are well educated, university types is just a stereotypical leaver view.
    Coming from a council house, leaving school will 4 O levels and working bloody hard does not maybe fit in?
    You see, assumptions, irony, in large amounts.

    Alas, the mess we are now in because Leave have no plan is very ironic. the leave camp; Boris, Mogg, et al....University types in ivory towers?
     
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  4. :)
     
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  5. For Robarano

     
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  7. Repeats on the telly again?
     
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  8. do you think come march when there are no uk tory MP's, will the ultra right EU party's get stronger or weaker?
     
  9. Could you be more exact fin?
     
  10. yip.
     
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  11. Good to know :upyeah:
     
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  12. If you mean once the U.K. leaves the european union will the right wing and the ultra right wing get stronger or weaker? I would have to say stronger.

    The U.K. with the third largest amount of mep's within the european parliament, was often seen as the vanguard for the smaller countries. I think this was because we have always been one foot in and one foot out, so more cautious than the sheeple who totally submerged into the subliminal messaging of the eu who follow most things hook line and sinker.

    With the U.K. no longer there to help the little guy, I suspect more countries will question if the eu is a good investment for them and whether they can sell it to their electorate. Within that, the right will grow amongst the normal people and sadly the far right will also grow

    Something I'm not sure about is just how many know but the seat allocation for countries, look and then tell me the eu isn't anything more than an engine for Germany

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/...share-out-of-meps-seats-among-28-eu-countries
     
  13. yip, with the third highest allocation it wielded no influence atoll...
    i mentioned recently rape clause Ruth going around drumming up support from some dodgy characters within the EU parliament particularly some Spanish minister during the lead up to 2014, to say anything and everything negative about us joining the EU.
    i read this earlier today. obviously the groups will now be smaller, and with the tory/kippers out in march too, so i figured, maybe he EU will be way better off without them.
    https://twitter.com/R_Davidson1980/status/1040152282904649728
     
  14. Er Fin, that says RON Davidson
     
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  15. In my mind, if the eu was the democratic utopia it claims to be then I would have said, pick a number, any number but say each country has 10 mep's, then there would be a genuine equality of the 28

    It was however the Germany project so pro rata the population decided the amount of seats and this is something we have covered when fin goes on his indi or I'll die rants

    Currently Scotland is one of 4 countries in the UK and within it's parliament of 650 mp's, Scotland has 59 mp's

    If Scotland joined the eu as an independent country, it would be one of 28 countries and within the eu parliament of 751 meps, Scotland would have 13 meps
     
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  16. that can and would make appropriate alliances, PR rocks. tho i v,much doubt they would have much in common with the groups the tory/kippers have been working with. even as a member, we would also have near 100% sovereignty and neer 100% control of our taxation and economic and foreign policies. night and day really.
     
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  17. Fin I know you are brainwashed so believe that nonsense but 13 meps out of 751 is a backward representational step.

    If you try and sell indi as an independent Scotland then give that independence away to the eu and it's 738 meps and 27 other countries, then don't be too surprised if you make the red bus look like a beginners pr mistake.

    The eu is moving towards a central budgetary council where they will set vat and tax rates to create a singular figure amongst all 27 to use, you know this. You also know they keep saying we cannot rely on the usa for protection anymore so the eu wants a central military control of the 27 countries armed forces to protect the eu, a recent multi country exercise in Bosnia had U.K. troops wearing eu badges

    This would mean you have less representation, more countries telling you what to do, will have to surrender most of your fishing waters again after getting them back, will lose control of what ever army you could afford and your finances will be run from Brussels. The best of British selling that as independence chap, honestly.
     
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  18. yip, there would be more countries to negotiate with sounds good to me.
    of course, all the doomsday scenarios you fantasize about would require the people of the other member states to allow the sovereign govs to OK it. it aint happening.
     
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  19. No doomsday scenario's mentioned there at all fin, all fact, but hey, knock yourself out.

    But honestly, You'd have more luck giving out Jeremy Corbyn Birthday party invites at a synagogue.
     
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