Yes, in conjunction with - so slowing (bracing and wind resistance) and vision (something you are lacking)
Do you think that racers need maximum braking ALL the time? They don't, they don't "need" any (small) effect that sitting up may cause due to drag the majority of the time. The point of braking is not to stop but to set the speed for the corner. How often on a Sunday ride out do you brake so hard you need the extra effect of drag? It's other reasons you sit up. The whole point of this thread was I always thought sitting up was to slow a rider down, but watching the racers I thought that was wrong.
Ok. I'll try. Drag is a retardation force acting against the direction of travel. Braking is a retardation force acting against the direction of travel. If it's worth crouching to reduce drag so that you are not slowed by it, it is worth "popping up" to increase drag to assist with slowing down whilst braking. You can argue that the amount of additional braking is small, but we all address tiny differences all the time, like shedding a kg of weight, adding a couple of BHP and shaving a second off our laptimes. Assisting the brakes using drag makes sense, it can help delay overheating the braking system - disks and fluid. In other words, popping up is all gain and no pain. Are we there yet?
I'm still yet to see the link to a web page saying in order to stop quickly you need to make yourself a sail.
Drag squares with velocity, so the faster you are going, the more effective sitting up becomes. Thus for us normalish peeps on the road, it likely negligable. But at appreciable velocities that racers achieve prior to braking, the effect of drag is much more marked.
"Dear Mr Pirro Next time you have no brakes, rather than panic and grab a handful, just sit up a bit more. Love Ducatiforum.co.uk"
He sat up. his bum cheeks were clinging that tightly to the seat when the wind got under his chest and lifted the whole bike - wow bit like kite surfing
That nearly happened to me once but you don't care, you just want to screw up people's serious threads.
Yeah but in fairness you said breaking, and surely farting as you enter a corner is unhelpful? Acts against the BRAKES.
Ah, cool, page 9 and we are serious (after my post 2 which closed the thread off) until Creamy went doolally that is
