British Indy: What Happens Now?

good negotiator? shes dropped two of her three preferred outcomes already.

 

I loved the self-deprecation of May today. Good on her

 

The rise of populism in the USA is for exactly the same reasons it is rising in Europe,the lofty attitude of an elite that has forgotten they are supposed to represent the people who fund them and who invariably suffer the consequences of their representatives delusions of grandeur.
I have spent time in Russia in the past and wouldn't like to comment on what and why things are happening over there,the mindset of those that I met is puzzling to say to the least.
The socialist open door policies of Merkel/Obama have diluted opportunity for the working class,mde housing more scarce,and extended the queues for state-funded healthcare.Not to mention the lenient treatment and extended welfare given to migrants has stoked a good deal of resentment I imagine,i know it would piss me off if I saw those who don't contribute getting more than those who have.
I'm not a capitalist,nor a socialist.If anything,i'm a pragmatist.I see places where state funding is positive and necessary,but I also firmly believe that individuals should do their best to make their own way,and that money should not be taken from those who strive only to be handed to those who don't.
Inequality between rich and poor has always existed and will always do so,but the recent phenomenon is the divide between those who actually work to produce,grow,distribute,etc,and pay taxes,and those who are a drain on the taxpayer.
The public/civil sector tail now wags the taxpaying dog...retirement ages,pensions,salaries,working conditions,and just about everything else enjoyed by the filth/NHS/local authority/uncle tom cobley ,are far better than those that the average man in the street gets.
And yet the constant refrain from those who suckle at the taxpayers teat is "we need more,to do less,and why haven't we had a payrise".
People are getting sick and tired of seeing those who CHOSE a career in uniform whining about the consequences of their choice,at the same time demanding undeserved respect and adulation for doing the thing for which they volunteered...that's the state again,by the way.
The man in the street is also fed up with being lectured and harangued by people who have no idea what the real world is like to live in,who receive far more than they are worth,and who spend taxes like water on spurious projects that politicians love to masturbate over.
The Brexit referendum result was only a first step.If the country is not removed properly from the EU in the way that Cameron promised,(outside the customs union,the trading partnership and everything else),that denial of democracy will amplify the seething resentments of the unheard and unrepresented working class.
Living in Switzerland and reading the papers gives you a certain viewpoint: hearing that three people have been stabbed to death by immigrants in the last 10 days ,(in my sleepy county town),and seeing whole families of non-English speaking visitors stealing food from the patients dinner trolley,(ignoring the pleas of staff),are not things you will have seen reported in the national press.
Nor will the outcry about local councils refusing planning permission for factories because they want to hold the land over for yet another mosque,or the fire brigade giving away perfectly good appliances,(paid for from our taxes),to other countries without so much as a by your leave.
These are just a few examples of where the state has undermined to rights of it's own citizens and favoured others who they are not elected to represent,plenty of others exist which are anti-domestic trade and industry,or where favouritism exists towards big business or minority groups.
It would be lovely to live in a world where everyone had plenty,the sun always shone and no one went short.
But we don't,we never will,and no amount of political delusions will change it.
It's not ALL about the EU,it's about AUTHORITY in general,which have far exceeded their remit.
Authority in general has stamped it's foot firmly on the necks of the lower majority classes,in ways that deny them democracy and opportunity.
What we are seeing is mass discontent with those who are paid handsomely to better citizens lives,not piss on them and give everything away.

 

You live in Switzerland?

 

Prime Minister Orbán contrasted President Trump’s address to the United Nations, in which he declared “We reject the ideology of globalism, and we embrace the doctrine of patriotism”, with that of the European Union’s Commissioner for Migration, Dimitris Avrampoulous, which emphasised the supposedly urgent need for more migration and more multilateralism, rather than stronger borders and national sovereignty.

“At the end of the day, this fine fellow, who is a [European] Commissioner, is our employee, he is paid by us… his job is to represent us. If, however, he is unable to represent every member-state, he should refrain from voicing opinions in the name of the EU, because this raises a major problem for democracy,” Orbán warned.

“This fine fellow went there and said that migration is good, migration must continue, a migrant resettlement programme must be implemented, [and] the EU unreservedly wantsto take part in the UN’s Migration Compact, which supports the relocation of people from one part of the world to another… He has received no authorisation from anyone to say any of this,” he added.

“This is a matter of dispute in the European Union today: this is opposed not only by the Hungarians, not only by most Central Europeans, and not only by the V4; but it is also opposed by the Italians, and indeed by the Austrians and the Bavarians… It is therefore no wonder that there are many of us on this continent who look forward to the European Parliament elections next May, so that we can finally send people like him packing,” the Hungarian leader concluded bluntly".

https://www.breitbart.com/london/20...ms-clinton-rebukes-eu-migration-commissioner/

 

Breitbart - how any one can quote that and expect to be taken seriously i have no idea.

Poison and hatred for those unable to think for themselves.

 

I thought that was wings over Scotland?

 

i guess thats what happens when people start their thinking based on what they dont know and what the debunked tell thee. 200,000 unique monthly readers (no doubt a few on here) after seeing the attempt to compare the two, now have there's suspicions confirmed.
plonker!.
anyhoo wings dont do news has no position on the EU and can be quite critical of it at times, it just does debunking of the MSM and filling in the gaps for some reason they (bribart and its lesser cousins) tend to leave out.
re politics most corrections in the papers come from there, the talking up Scotland web site and others. its a full time job brw.
but dinna worry, i was there once too. never looked at a political based site, bar here...... pre sep 2014. i will have non of that propaganda bull shit, thank you very much. turns out they are quite a civilized bunch for a cabal of labour, liberal, SNP. Green and even tory votors, but they do all have one thing in common, NATzi's, the fugging lot of em. .
the language in the comments section is changing, not as rabid as on here at times right enough, but it's deffo changed since june 2016, but hayhoo, fully on board now tho.
and despite his best efforts the media miester couldn't and cant touch it.
here, have you not noticed beetlejuice doesent troll me half as much on every thread going with relentless minutia since i put that link up on my signature? good eh?

 

Nissan warning today of ‘serious implications’ to its UK plant from a No Deal Brexit.

 

There will be and they are right to demonstrate they are taking them seriously. When we take the view of ‘live local, buy local’ they will not be able to keep up with capacity and will be looking for larger premises and hubs based out of the midlands.

I’m sure that what you meant

 

Have they relocated to the Midlands then?

 

They will need extra capacity and build in the midlands, so they can service more easily demand across U.K. makes total sense.

Or at least as much sense as all the remainers and their predictions

 

And if they struggle, we can change our targets on when diesel etc is being phased out. Comfortable in the fact it’s our destiny, our choice, our parliament.

Derrr der der der derderderder derrrr

 

No one will be making Diesel engines in two years time.

 

Wartsila might be?

 

I blame Brexit