The price will be higher. The EU required that left hand drive and right hand drive cost the same. So that’s gone. We will be alone in the world. Mays soft Brexit deal with the EU has USA Canada New Zealand Amongst others saying that we should not be allowed to trade with the rest of the world under WTO rules because we won’t be trading with the rest of the EU under WTO rules. The hypothesis that German car manufacturers won’t let the U.K. leave without a deal is laughable. If there is a 10% tariff on EU cars coming into the U.K. all that will happen is the price will go up 10% or they will reduce the spec if the cars to save 10%. The boss of BMW doesn’t care if we have to make do with 17” alloys and standard tyres, no tyre pressure monitoring and have to pay for climate control as an optional extra.
Different spec - yes, different standards - no. The EU single market required that each countries standards bodies be respected by the other countries Eg the U.K. respected the German DIN standard as being equivalent to the UKs BSI standard. Over time these standards were harmonised, and in my industry the consequent EU norm was 90% based on the British standards. In terms of product, we have CE marking and ENEC marking. None of this has anything to do with whether a Range Rover has one or two sunroofs. What is does mean, is that everytime a UK company develops a product for the U.K. market it will have to apply for all the necessary certification for the U.K., then do it all again for the EU. Manufacturers don’t like it because it’s expensive and it’s why it was got rid of in favour of the single market. Still, blue passports
Everything China and America and anywhere else outside of the EU sells into the EU is CE certified. You are making up issues out of nothing. What industry are you in? Our standards are as you say totally aligned with the EU. If any change we will have reason to change
and like most remainers, you will only see one direction of traffic, always doom and gloom. The eu will now have to meet our different standards also and given we buy more from them than they buy from us, then how difficult they make it depends how much they struggle from a self inflicted wound. We can also choose to look at other countries and possibly match their standards IF WE WANT, great having the ability and flexibility to choose isn't it https://news.sky.com/story/japan-opens-door-to-uk-membership-of-tpp-post-brexit-11521148 Which I believe has a consumer base of over 800 million and that's before you even mention the AIIB or let alone a reborn commonwealth trade association with a consumer base of 2.3 billion. In a democracy they asked the people to vote and not business, bastards ay, still blue and white faces aye
Sounds like the self employed and those who run their own small business are going to have to pay for Brexit and not the big tax avoiding individuals and companies. Rumours are of big NI increases for them in next months budget.
talking of rumors, this is a fairly well researched one. https://thoughtcontrolscotland.com/2018/10/09/pure-kryptonite-for-scottish-tory-unionists/
Apart from the out of sync and disproportionate group numbers giving a required apparent bias (2018 samples England 2741, Scotland 1502, Wales 2016, Northern Ireland 1089) it's always worth noting on such things that they are answering the questions put to them by the questionares. Of which, one was Dr Alisa Henderson, here on Scotland tonight just after the Scots voted on indi 1, to stay with the U.K. What interested me was around the 4.30 minute mark, when she said something along the lines of, If you want the gap between the rich and the poor to be smaller then vote for independence. This is telling because the larger gap then, as it is now, is whilst being in the eu and with all it's no borders, multi national companies benefiting but not in a way that the residents are, whilst in europe. If, as the point was made, that it was perceived that an independent Scotland would reduce the gap between rich and poor, the obvious question would smack you in the face like a wet kipper. If those voting for Scottish independence genuinely whilst IN the eu, had seen the gap between the rich and the poor grow, had then sought to become independent on the belief the gap between rich and poor would shrink once independent, why would they then give that up to rejoin the very same organisation that has seen the gap between rich and poor grow in every single country it manages? Something to think about. Anyway
not entirely sure what that has to do with the views of tory voters in england re the union and brexit, but hayhoo. times change.
Within your last post you made reference to the views of tory voters fin and within that post it had this link http://www.centreonconstitutionalchange.ac.uk/sites/default/files/pages/FoES 2018 Slides.pdf Now, happy to be corrected, the facts of tory voters as you declare it had these as the participants 2018 samples England 2741, Scotland 1502, Wales 2016, Northern Ireland 1089, can we agree on that? Nowhere does it say that any of those 7348 are tories, let alone labour snp etc etc it just has people so were has the tory voters part come in? So the later part where it declares the thoughts,replies are from tories would be difficult to quantify unless the within the questionare it had asked who would you vote for. If they had asked what party do you normally vote for, for equal information you understand, you would have to ask why they refused to show the results of the same questions for labour voters, snp voters, greens, libs etc but they don't. Again even within their own graphs and numbers they do not say what the numbers are for each party. Often with "research" such as this, it becomes clear who the target audience are and who the targeted are. What is also telling is not what they say with their "facts" but what they refuse to publish from the very same papers What it has to do with brexit I would have thought was obvious, the snp are like a pit pony looking for coal and look for any excuse they can find to raise the indi question, it makes them predictable, oh look mogg has a nanny, dammed tories at westminster, we need to break free But in your usual Northerly charm fin you have and did again avoid the question that links Scotland and brexit so may I try again? If those voting for Scottish independence genuinely whilst IN the eu, have seen the gap between the rich and the poor grow, had then sought to become independent on the belief the gap between rich and poor would shrink once independent, why would they then give that up that independence to rejoin the very same organisation that has seen the gap between rich and poor grow in every single country it manages?
well, that was a pile of spam. people can read it, up here they will compare what was said by the tory gov in 2014 about the family of nations and what the reality is. i guess we should just eat our serial and listen the woman on itv. nothing is doable or, we can say, fuck that. we are already closing the attainment gap between rich and poor, the first step to closing the wealth gap. the next step is having control over taxation and avoidance.
Conclusions • Brexit serves to highlight how much voters value (or not) certain aspects of the union Losing Scotland, and peace in NI seen as price worth paying for Brexit (esp for Leave voters and Conservative voters) • Policy union?: Greater support for policy uniformity between UK and EU than within UK (even for Leave voters, Conservative voters across GB) • Sharing union? No particular support for sharing resources with particular parts of UK • Union of grievance (and at times union of ignorance) Challenges for Conservatives • Divided in terms of vision of union (sharing) And, on some questions, don’t seem particularly unionist (on policy uniformity or sharing, or Scottish independence) • Their own supporters want policy uniformity with the EU once the UK leaves
Scotland says it does have a poor rich gap of note https://www.holyrood.com/articles/comment/scotland-has-golden-opportunity-tackle-growing-inequality https://www.gov.scot/Topics/Statistics/Browse/Social-Welfare/IncomeInequality https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/...1-of-scots-have-more-than-bottom-50-1-4366407 It would seem Scottish government and media disagree with you fin, it is happening You not answering is the norm so I'll take that as you doing your very best to avoid an incredibly simple question then....as usual If those voting for Scottish independence genuinely whilst IN the eu, have seen the gap between the rich and the poor grow whilst in the eu, had then sought to become independent on the belief the gap between rich and poor would shrink once independent, why would they then give that up that independence to rejoin the very same organisation that has seen the gap between rich and poor grow in every single country it manages?
you didn't ask me a viable question. you showed another to wee too poor video. seen them all. the attainment gap is closing. more poorer kids are getting degrees. over time kids from poorer backgrounds will make it in to positions of influence,one of many different approaches taken up here. within the area's we control, no glorious tory five year plans going on here. despite their flip flopping on education. anyhoo, despite yer spam, the link was to research that completely dispels the tory myth of union. nothing to do with independence tho it will deffo be used as an example of the uk not working for the good of the uk.
erm noob, its four years out of date, before any official confirmation of a brexit vote was even gonna take place. before the 1500 tax jobs where moved to london before the promised frigate factory was cancelled and the order halved. before the contract to service the fleet was given to the yards in england before 1billion carbon capture project was scrapped. before the wealthy land owners had maxed out all the green energy subsidies and the cancellation of support to develop much of the green energy initiatives. before the endangered pension payments became reality. before the massive oil and gas discoveries where announced. before the uk committed to upgrading trident. before they sold the licenses to frack Scotland where sold to inios and co before the smaller farmers knew they are gonna lose their CAP payments. before it became possible to say NO means out. before the power grab. so much has changed since then. more than i can be arsed listing. one thing hasn't changed. the slow death of British labour in Scotland. https://grousebeater.wordpress.com/2018/09/30/brexit-resignation/ i see the ltest polling aint looking to good for the British tory's in Scotland either, they will be all but wiped out if a GE is called any time soon.
just checking, for a friend The exact same lady is out of date when she says something you do not like but relevant when she says something you do like The exact same lady F A N D A B E D O Z E E
who said i didnt like her? i can honestly see me discussing my manifesto with her over a glass of rohypnol. but like yer patter, its well out of date.
i am a fugging clairvoyant, and a fugging good one at that. hmm, hubris? anyhoo. not word for word, but by fug was i close.
Brexit is a waste of time anyway. Within 10-15 years the younger generation will have taken us back in. Imagine Scotland, Wales and NI all being part of the EU and with booming economies and England on the outside.
