Article 50 fin, see if you can see a cancellation process http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/th.../title-6-final-provisions/137-article-50.html
Is it just me or is juncker trying to shake tm hand, drunk again or is he so diddery because of Alzheimer’s , or both maybe? Just plain weird that the uk is still allowing tm to try to clinch this deal which surely must be the worst negotiated deal in history, but I suppose what else do you expect when you put a remainer in charge of leaving, the whole world is just amazed that the uk is even still around the negotiating table, is there anything at all where the EU have been giving instead of taking? No off course not.......
I'm going with article 50 fin, the leaving process is quite clear. It's upto those who want to change it or can't understand it (although they can they just hate they lost the democratic vote) to challenge it. The more they do it, the more their mummummum we lost and sillyness becomes more obvious. I'm expecting the next challenge to be, we don't like Boris's hair cut, can we stop brexit?
I’ve just been to Motocycle Live with a few mates.One of the very very few remoaners I know,(ex-public sector taxpayer-funded parasite retired early on fantastic pension,so no surprise there),and two others who couldn’t be arsed to vote. Remoaner couldn’t understand why I’m miffed-says I got the Referendum result that I wanted,and he’s getting the outcome that he wanted,so fairs fair. The other two cannot be arsed either way,they reckon nothing changes whoever you vote for so what is the point making the effort. Not one of them gives a shit about democracy,as long as,”I’m all right Jack”...
could testing it not just be for clarification?. surely you wouldnt want people thinking they had to just accept a bad deal or no deal when its possible that somthing better could be achieved?
I believe the minute the U.K. made it clear that this is a technical question that would have no input on the outcome then the honest amongst those pushing that would have stopped wasting others money. However, as a democracy, there is the ability to seek clarification even if it takes 3 attempts for the simplest of people to understand the first attempt answer was right I respect those avenues are open to them and they are using them.
Any government policy remains government policy - until it is changed, as government polices very frequently are. Just as any Act of Parliament remains part of the law - until it is repealed or amended, as statutes often are. When the debate is about whether a policy should change or whether a law should be repealed, governments always say no - until minds change and U-turns are performed. Incidentally we have only last week seen several changes of government policy on the Finance Bill (the Finance Bill!) forced by opposition parties.
Article 50 does not explicitly include or exclude the possibility of a notification being withdrawn by the member state which made it. However it is obvious that if all 28 member states agreed that an Art 50 notification should be treated as withdrawn, then it would be. What is not obvious is whether the notifying state could validly withdraw it unilaterally, i.e. without the consent of all the other 27 member states. The only forum which could determine the answer to that question is the Court of Justice of the EU. So it seems reasonable for a declaration to be sought clarifying the position. The political situation in the UK is so extremely unstable at the moment that there is no knowing who will be the Prime Minister, or the government, or what policy might attract a parliamentary majority by next week - let alone by next March. It helps everybody if they are clear about what is or is not legally possible.
the UK government illegally tried to stop the Scottish Supreme court referring the matter to the ECJ. The European Union does not want brexit The UK Parliament is sovereign, not the people The referendum result is advisory The logical conclusion is that the ECJ will decide parliament will be given its sovereign right to overturn the referendum result, should it wish to do so. The British establishment doesn't want Brexit because it will spell the end of the UK There will be no Brexit. its over.
i recon the percentage vote for brexit over remain was higher than the governments percentage over the others in parliament even without buying support...on this basis why cant we challenge the shit they keep coming out with like the lower percentage of the voters do against the democratic vote to leave?
So democracy, it's just one massive con for stupid people Ya ballacks voting has got us all into this mess, stop voting!
democracy, its just one massive con by a small group of rich people who lied to the ordinary people to get the result they wanted so they would be free from EU workers rights and Human Rights so they could exploit the people for even more financial gain than they do now. Its not the fault of the people who were lied to, its the fault of the liars
I thought they used the court process which was later challenged and over turned but if you say they did something illegal, happy to see what your basis of that claim is? Agreed, but what europe wants is different than the majority of the U.K., that's why we had a vote so see what to do next and everyone in parliament is voted in and out, parliament knows this, parties know this. And yet the governments remain leaflet to every house said on it quite clearly, it would implement the decision Your logic may not be the logic of the ecj. What is fact is that there is no halting or ceasing procedure within the Lisbon treaty. The question being put to the ecj is just a technical question, and nothing more. Nonsense. The politicians, civil service and business have the system set up in a way that works for them. The democratic majority vote by the British public said it does not work for us. No one is seeking the break up of the U.K. in it's current guise apart from the Scottish UKIP, the snp. There will and more closer to what was voted for, a clean break to become an independent third country I hope we are getting to the end having wasted 2 years going into a negotiation with a group who do not want to negotiate.
I could have sworn the eu rules and laws were switched over to the U.K. when the house voted recently under the eu withdrawl bill which the house voted for by a substantial majority, did you miss that?
You are spot on, but I would still take my chances outside the EU. Suppose that why Billions of people arrive in the EU every week because their workers rights will be protected
With the new EU army, are UK military bases in EU States closing? Is there any bases nowadays, I've no idea.
I think the U.K. only has one base on mainland europe and that's in Germany but that is due to close by 2020 https://www.army.mod.uk/deployments/ https://www.politico.eu/article/juncker-calls-for-an-eu-army/ https://www.politico.eu/article/macron-wants-europe-to-build-its-own-military-hardware/ https://www.euractiv.com/section/fu...merkel-brings-european-army-one-step-further/ What? a eu army? what when? nope, no plans
I wonder if you recognised the place in the last link, there is a video there and all the cheering and support was for Merkels request for an eu army to run alongside nato, and the assembly they were in...the european parliament., within the last month or so too By your comment, you didn't watch that video did you
Blogs? i heard cheering when yer actual Teresa proclaimed an end to austerity, that aint gonna happen either.
