British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  2. Selling langoustines etc to the continent could take a hit
     
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  3. I think it could be argued that if no one is happy then the PM has done a good job
     
  4. Don't they like scampi then?
     
  5. Take note Futher Muckers, a melon, not a pomegranate ..ooohhh yeah :D
     
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  6. They work around that don’t they?

    99.9% of the car is built in China or wherever, then they ship it to a German factory, put some badges on it and a label that says made in the EU. That’s what Mercedes do with cars built in South Africa
     
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  7. Remainders who are unhappy with May's "deal" have not accepted yet the logical end point of their choices.

    They'll come around though, when it is way too late.
     
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  8. They also consume several times their own weight in water whilst growing in areas of drought and depriving the locals of water and in Mexico now, the main source of avos, their production and shipment is controlled by the Mexican drug cartels. In consuming avos you are indirectly financing the drug trade. Strange but true.
     
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  9. I think the same can be said for those arguing for no deal
     
  10. General impression I’m getting is leaving the EU may not be a bad thingo_O:eek:
     
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  11. I think I see what you mean but, respectfully, it's not the same thing at all.
    : o )
     
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  12. I get the impression that if the eu had stayed the trade association it was always meant to be and not the authoritive superstate it has become, then this thread would never have needed to be created.
     
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  13. I agree.
    For a while now all the discussions about the EU have reminded me of similar discussions years ago about the unions.
    Basically they have run out of useful things to do but want to justify themselves in some way, plus have got a bit power mad.
     
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  14. Perfectly valid point for everyone who took “leave”’ to mean no deal. In which case they are rightfully furious and don’t care about the consequences for jobs etc. That will be those who are wealthy enough not to care and pensioners

    The trouble was Cameron agreed to a question and implemented a referendum before starting a countrywide debate.

    If the debate had happened first, the question could have been much clearer
     
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  15. I sort of agree, but think the ‘campaigning’ on both sides should have helped us decide.
    Perhaps I should have looked harder but the remain campaign seemed to be you must be stupid and maybe racist to vote leave.
    The leave campaign seemed to be look at all the money we will save - once we’re out we’ll have a fantastic NHS, jobs for all etc etc.
     
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  16. It was genuinely 100% drivel from both sides.
     
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  17. Yes but not similar to the point I was making.

    My argument is that the terms of the temp agreement are a subset or precursor of the ultimate goal of the EU. Thus, Remainders who object to the temp agreement don't seem to realise that they are thereby objecting to the logical end result of their own Remainder position.

    I was being a little oblique initially, apologies for that.

    That is entirely true but you must understand, when Cameron was asking whether the country wanted Brexit, he was in fact trying to make the idea of Brexit *go away*, in an effort to reunite the Tory party.

    Had proper consultation and debate taken place, there was a danger that the idea of Brexit would capture the imagination of the Nation. Unbeknownst to Cameron, it already had.
     
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  18. Yeah, what he said ^
     
  19. Sorry the word “nation” does not compute
     
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  20. I also feel whilst the tories are getting much of the stick over the proposal, Labour have said that they will refuse it when it comes to the house. They hope to be in government soon and know they would be tied to the eu with this deal also and may end up trying to get out of a eu biased deal themselves whilst in government.
     
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