British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  2. How?
     
  3. Perhaps I’m missing something.

    To me, if you say to a leaver ‘but if we leave (insert product name here) will cost more’ they tend to answer with ‘no, we can just buy from these other places’. In other words there seem to be answers to all the ‘why we shouldn’t leave’ questions.
    But, if you say to a remainer ‘ how do we benefit from being in the EU’ there is no answer or they say you are stupid.

    Please help, am I missing a great joke ?
    Or am I indeed stupid ?
     
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  4. They do all the jobs that the lazy British people who would rather not work and be on benefits do.... because they are happy to work hard to get on...

    Having them do these jobs id not the answer... getting the lazy scroungers to work is the answer by changing the benefits system... so you get back relative to what you contribute...

    But maybe that's too simplistic an answer..
     
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  5. Not simplistic at all, just wrong and straight from The Guardian. :rolleyes:
     
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  6. I hear that is all the rage in North Korea
     
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  7. If it were my choice, I might agree with you. Alas, there are folk living in NI who disagree.

    Still ... multiculturalism ... gotta love it, it's never known to fail.
     
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  8. Cheap imported labour always benefits a host country, didn't you know? *cough*

    That said, all the Polish immigrants I have met have been lovely. However, my experience does not represent a significant sample for stats purposes.
     
  9. I’m starting to think there are no benefits in being part of the EU.
    bit late really ( I’m a slow learner)
     
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  10. One benefit ... We can export dookie to France with minimal fuss.

    That's it.
     
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  11. The question now then is why, in general, is the uk media making it look like a bad idea ?
    My, maybe lame, theory is that the politicians will have to do their job, rather than just going along with the EU, and have a lot of influence on the media.
     
  12. Top of the EU Trade negotiations would be a total ban on Dookie imports, or is that just wishful thinking on there part!! ;)
     
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  13. Tomorrows meeting isn't about fish or agreements, it's about who ends up with chuckles
     
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  14. .......a deal breaker for both sides. :scream:
     
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  15. how does it work loz? and who are they working for? is it true for all things or just certain causes? i ask this today as a secret oil field predicted to produce for 40years comes on tap. you will know where i am going with this.
    *warning, Scottish content*
    why do i feel the need to do that?
    why does a nation with more natural resources than pretty much anywhere in the world per head, everything from food and fresh water, to forestry, minerals and hydrocarbons. with more potential than most in renewable energy, end up as one of the poorest in the developed world, with all the symptoms that go with?. how did the "scrounger" moniker stick? and why do their partners promote it?
    why in a normal sized country did the majority think its too wee, too colloquial and why do their partners promote it?
    why is it, that with a country that provided the world with "the Scottish enlightenment" think its too dumb? why does its partner promote it?
    why does a country, with legal mechanisms in place that could avoid it, that has had great harm done to it, continue to allow it to happen?, why does its partners promote it?.
    why did it take brexit for there to be some serious questions asked of our MSM and state broadcaster, when plenty have been saying it for decades?.
    why are they disusing the price of an orange :rolleyes:when there are people in this country that cant afford one?
    why did majority with a population thats getting too old to grow em, think those that produce them aren't welcome to stay here?
    why is it that we get years of headlines like "the Thames will run Red" and front page splashes like this from ALL the major and "respected" outlets and promoted in "what the papers say". day in day out, year in year out, but we are labeled grievance monkeys by our partners.
    this from the Scotsman paper, but pretty standard fair for our MSM up here.

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    i'm labeled a Nazi, daily, by those that should know better, but i'm expected to sympathizing with Arlene Foster?, the leader of the political wing of a terrorist group? with all the division her and hers have caused on the west coast of Scotland. aye, OK.
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    when people say, "we will flourish", who is we?.
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    do you honestly think by handing back all those powers to a system that's created all that ^^ (i say this country because with "one nation Britain" that's what its fast becoming) will be willing to turn it around? if so, may i respectfully say,
    dream on. :upyeah:
    that's a lot of questions init? most of it of, if not all of zero interest to you init? now you know what the likes of Noob and Co, look like to me. :D
     
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  16. It’s a fact that your average immigrant be that Polish or from elsewhere contributes more to the economy more than your average Brit. That’s data from the ONS. Not surprising since they almost all work, as opposed to the many workshy layabouts we have produced.

    Also, whilst some are unskilled, most are skilled. I have had a Polish doctor and dentist.

    I work in construction and the Poles are skilled sub contractors. Plasterers, plumbers, electricians. Their work and work ethic is excellent. If they were not here, the rate of building in the City of London and Canary Wharf would have been a lot slower. They did not suppress wages, the financial crash did that. If they were not here everyone who relies on those buildings being built would have suffered.

    Steel manufacturing
    Concrete producers
    Glazing system suppliers

    The whole supply chain and the jobs that depend on them and therefore the economy in general would not have grown the way it did. There may have been a slight push down in wages for those trades but it would not have been much as the market was buoyant. There were benefits generated for rest of the supply chain.

    If you are looking for who is to blame, look at successive Tory governments that removed incentives to hire apprentices
     
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  17. And there we have it. Why didn't you just nail your colours to the mast from the off and say what you really wanted to say, it would have saved you a lot of time. :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Show the quotes, or it didn't happen. :D
     
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