British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Macron more than even junker or verhofdstadt, has been the main driver of punshing the U.K. for daring to leave. A mixture of his power move to now replace the ailing Merkel but also because he knows Germany and France will be the two main countries picking up the actual U.K. contribution of £13 billion a year.

    Given most of the eu know the leaving deal will not pass parliament, Spain's prime minister rather jumped the gun on Gibraltar and this evening , Macron has said he intends to use the threat of the backstop being used as leverage in the upcoming forward relationship in particular in regards to fishing.

    It's these constant wtf's that have me continually feeling the eu does not want a deal, as just as they think they can't push brits anymore, they then do and you can't help but think they are trying to keep pushing buttons till something goes pop.

    They either think, May has surrended on everything so far so why not keep going or, ffs when are they going to walk away so we can blame them.
     
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  2. Just agreeing wasn’t enough.

    Another well said sir.
     
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  3. Macron is a c##t (allegedly)

    He's so despised in his own country that trying to fast track himself to a cushy EU role is his only way at holding on to power.

    He's nothing but a poster boy having his strings pulled by a shadowy puppeteer or two......allegedly
     
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  4. You forgot, he's also a granny grabber. I mean, she probably looked ok in 1974, but................o_O

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  5. Ha, ha, ha, ha - Ha, ha, ha, ha!

    See? What did I tell y'all.....What an effing b*llux-up up it is....and she is going to get it through Parliament, so all the chicken b*stards can keep their jobs.
     
  6. I know she's managed to manipulate MPs so far with her own mini versions of Project Fear for every concession, but I genuinely can't see them voting for this. Unless Labour have a massive change of heart in the next few days there's no chance of this getting through. The ERG and DUP won't vote for this.

    But you called it well, granted. I never thought they would get us to where we are now. It's been done small concession by small concession, to now where they have actually made this deal worse than staying in the EU. If this deal had been revealed 2 years ago, people would have called for WTO on the spot.

    I still think it has a way to go yet though, put your bunting away. :)

    I noticed Sky News had a "What if it doesn't get through parliament" piece tonight where they went through the options of what could happen in that event. Remain, General election, Renegotiate, et al. They didn't even mention leaving without a deal on WTO :rolleyes: And they wonder why nobody trusts the MSM and think that they have an agenda.
     
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  7. Tories are scared of a general election
    DUP are scared of Labour (Corbin would give all power to the terrorists south of the border )
    Labour are scared (not corbynistas) of seeming to appear on one side or the other as they are just desperate for power
    Corbyn labour hate Europe as much as they hate Jews, but need to seem like they don’t so they can hopefully get a GE

    Meanwhile, may is doing what may appeared to have planned from the start: no brexit
     
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    I hope so. If this is her game, she'll go down in my book as the greatest ever living Briton and somebody I'd not play poker with. :D I fear she's useless though and I still think she'll be remembered as the worst ever PM and this is something she believes in.

    Her saying "Aye, have whatever you want" to Spain over Gibraltar in about 20 seconds flat, makes me think you may be onto something. This deal is such a huge pile of shit that can't get through, what's another little winnit on top if you know it'll never happen.
     
  9. Thought you were a leaver? No brexit not no deal. Remain as is...
     
  10. Sorry, misread that. I thought you said "No Deal". :blush: My post makes much more sense when you put it into that context. :grinning:

    She obviously couldn't get a straight up "No Brexit" without wiping out the Tory party for 20 years, so this "No deal and can't ever leave" deal was maybe her game. I can't work it out. o_O

    I still think she's a coniving witch though, the sooner she is ousted and burned at the stake, the better. :skull:
     
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  11. its as if Ireland was never stolen by Britain in the first place. If you applied the logic that was applied when Britain ceded control of most of Ireland and its partitioning to todays BREXIT, Scotland and Northern Ireland would be staying in the EU. You couldn't make it up: its as if the days of empire are still ingrained in some peoples psyche and all sense of fairness and logic has been abandoned.
     
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  12. that's what I think. The Tory party will always put the tory party first and to avoid an election, will put it back to the people, when the bill fails to get through the commons

    what amazes me is that rarely, if ever, was the argument made that immigration is essential if we have any hope of having enough people of working age to support the ever increasing number of pensioners and their ever increasing care costs.

    If immigration isn't allowed to continue, watch your taxes soar, or be prepared to be looking after your parents in your own home
     
  13. One thing that would be a good thing: return to family values where you don’t stick you parents in a home.

    One of the major things wrong with society today
     
  14. I love the fact that Robanaro disagrees with my posts, especially the one about Britain stealing Ireland. Like that and partition never happened. It's not surprising though since he watches SKY news. Explains everything
     
  15. From the boy who get his facts from the Beano. :)
     
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  16. I admire your optimism but the world has changed too much since the 50s.

    work pressure
    people don't always live near their parents now
     
  17. I'm happy to pay more tax, whereas you seem to want to import people to pay it for you. Interesting.
     
  18. feel free to disprove

    partition of Ireland
    pensions crisis and demographics
    Tory Party using referenda to resolve internal division

    Channel 4 News for me mostly along with LBC where subjects get tackled from several perspectives. Then I make my own mind up having heard all the arguments
     
  19. My god. John Snow, Cathy Newman and James O'Brien. It all makes sense now. :)
     
  20. that's hysterical.

    what percentage of the amount of money the government spends, is spent on the state pension alone?

    that figure will excludes public sector workers occupational pensions.

    keep in mind what we spend and what is raised in taxation is not the same thing

    it was forecast that between 2015 and 2020 there would be an additional 1.1million pensioners. How many immigrants have left already? 1million?
    so that's a significant shift already

    Its not just tax, its the fact you will be working until you are 70 or whatever
     
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