Some of us didn't expect anything else despite wanting the opposite - but flinging promotions and peerages around to bribe MPs to back her 'deal' is bloody outrageous.
If the deal (ha ha) is agreed and we basically stay in the EU what happens then ? That would mean the government haven’t given the people what they wanted ( the result of the referendum)
When has any Government given the people what they wanted? I'd like to see the abolition of tax havens, non-domicile tax rules and paying for representation in parliament, all of which would make a massive improvement to this Country but none of it will happen. And i bet if we had a referendum on all these tomorrow, the majority in favour would be far bigger than the Brexit vote.
I see your point, but isn’t this more like the country voted for the Conservatives but only just and then the politicians argued about it for a year or so and decided actually Labour will be in power ?
Past giving a fuck anymore. Politicians seem determined to make a complete balls up of the thing ( just like the vote in the first place). They can bleat about the current deal all they like but i hear no one at all offering any different ideas that will work. Leaving with no deal will cost hundreds of thousands of jobs which i guess is fine if you are a multi millioniare living in a mansion and don't need to work but most of us are not. We live in a global market and the Empire died over 100 years ago (and was pretty shit anyway). Some seem unable to accept either.
And yet you pop in regularly to supply your inordinate mirth and gloomery, I admire your dedication to your cause, prozac sales rep of the year 2018 isn't it? Which has been shown to be complete nonsense and project fear. You are more likely to lose your job through events in China or the downturn in car ownership than brexit. And the most idiotic thing of all by the extreme remainers, one of the few empires left is the eu project, which we are leaving but they want us to stay in it. We are going into an open world whilst they claim the gated community is a haven of liberalism and freedoms
Whether you believe remain or leave though, what the politicians are proposing is not right. Or again, am I missing something?
Looking at it just as an agreement, remember this is just the leaving agreement proposal. Whilst we can discuss future deals with non eu countries, if the eu do not like it or fear we might be moving away from their regulations during the transition period, they can enforce the backstop. Once in the backstop, there is no legal out for the U.K. unless the eu agree to it. Given the vote was to leave the eu and all that is the eu,this deal would be the complete opposite of the democratic vote's wish and clear direction.
No your are not. Our politicians, of all shades and Brexit views, have no vision, no plan, no strategy, no negotiating tactics, no balls and are completely unorganised in the face of a very organised and united adversary. They have shown themselves up for the incompetents that they are. “Lions led by Donkeys” is the very apt phrase that springs to mind.
Not only do I think your view of no deal will cost hundreds of thousands of jobs to be a slight exaggeration (and what Noobie said) lets not forget that good old Maggie T deliberately flushed thick end of a hundred thousand miners jobs down the pan plus all the jobs lost in Shipbuilding, steel, and the other jobs lost when BT and water were privatised. Not to mention the B Leyland farce. I think her plan was fuck em they can retrain or become entrepreneurs in the "service sector" if they want a job. The current crop of car manufacturers are here because of the UK employment laws as much as anything else so I think they'll figure a way round a No Deal. After surviving all that I think we can manage this AND we'd be better for it without the Brussel Bureaucrats. TB
Still not offering another better option though are you. Saying fuck em doesn't pay peoples mortgages.
