Fin, I know you will read this in the morning and I like to start your day off with a smile The case in front of the ecj we've mentioned about, whether the U.K. can unilaterally call off article 50 which is a technical question only, also has the eu's lawyers supporting the U.K.'s position but for a different reason. I know you say you don't read MSM, but I'll include the link anyway https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...hearing-scotland-justice-treaty-a8653546.html The eu's legal team insists The European Council’s legal team argued against unilateral revocation, stating that it would allow the UK to unfairly “keep the ball rolling” on the Article 50 period until it had a better deal from the bloc. Lawyers acting for the European Commission meanwhile argued that states could act in an “abusive” manner by triggering and revoking Article 50 repeatedly, creating “endless uncertainty” against the spirit of the treaty. Or in laymans terms, each member country could launch article 50 get a deal from the eu for that one country, then cancel that article 50 only when it wants to effectively holding the 27 to ransom instead of the 27 holding a single country to ransom. If countries saw this as a way out of the eu, it could keep the eu in a continual stasis of exit by one or more countries.
dude, your still missing the point, three points actually. A, Scots law was tested. they won. people think rUK law automatically supers seeds ours it doesn't, British labour or any of the other British party leadership would never have tried, just another wee chip away at the British state. B. it helps to exposes the differences between parliamentary sovereignty in rUK, the claim of rights and the sovereignty of the people in Scotland. a decent media would be all of this. and so should you upstanding democrats. the UK Parliament is attempting to limit the choices open to you and others. nothing to celebrate btw. C, i truly dont give a ferk on the result, see point A, that's what interests me, tho obviously a win can expose the uk gov just a lil bit more, but i guess i would have to go to social media to witness it. i hope non of this doesn't in anyway deflate that erection you managed to achieve while typing yer latest gloatfest.
Perhaps they think if they take long enough we will have forgotten what they started out trying to do. They can then present whatever as a victory
I've left it too late, but have just started giving a fuck. How did the politicians make a balls up of the vote ? If I understand the current deal it isn't to leave, plenty of people saying leaving with no deal would be better. How will it cost hundreds of thousands of jobs ? ( There are apparently 73 UK Euro MPs ) If the empire was shit, why be part of another one ?
When do I get to choose my player name ? Trying to be open minded about it all ( In case we end doing a best of 3 vote) My problem at the moment is anything I've read / heard from the remain point of view has no substance, it's just It will be shit and our kids will hate us for it. I have 4 kids - want to know in advance why they are going to hate me.
You get your name when you have annihilated a notable opponent. Or signed up to the £10pm plan. Probably the latter.
Unfortunately I fear you may be right. There's been plenty of times I've thought 'that looks like the right thing to do' It rarely was though. EDIT: I have to say though, the worst financial decisions I’ve made have been on the advise of ‘experts’
There you go. Even the Govt's own figures predict it will be 4 x worse with no deal. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46366162 If you ask around the World whether British rule over their Nation as part of the Empire was good for them, all will tell you about the rape and pillage of their people, resources and their lands. You will struggle to find one who will actually say it improved their Country. You need to open your eyes rather than believe what you read. “Learning is experience. Everything else is just information.” ― Albert Einstein.
There you go what? the treasury, the same treasury I've seen YOU claim don't know what you are talking about, when it suits your purpose are asked to give "predictions" most so far have not been anywhere near the mark, remember they are produced by Hammond's department who has consistently over egged the pudding. What he has said is we need to back Mays plan, funny that. It would seem as regards to empire, some remainers are more obsessesed by it where most brexiteers see it as a thing of the past we do not want to return too. Funny that.
Given they way all politicians have behaved the last year or so, I'm not sure I want to believe a word they write or say. You are more than likely right there, but I was saying why be part of another 'empire' like the EU then ? I'm trying to see both sides. The only decent reason I have heard for remaining is it's easier to stay as we are.
I see your three points and counter In regards to the law within the U.K., the Scots law was tested and then it was passed UPWARDS to the U.K. courts and was tested and then it was sent UPWARDS to the ECJ, using full process of escalation. You seem to think it stops at the Scots case, if that was the case, why then ask the higher and highest courts onward? Why because you know how the escalation process works but hate the fact that the Scottish court in the majority of cases, is the start and not the end. Nonsense, it, like the vote, shows you in clear advance, how the system works. Because your party is seeking to constantly go on about independence, you claim it is biased against the Scots rather that the same representation to all of the nations of the U.K. It's the equivalent to pulling the race card every 5 minutes as is much of the snp's victimhood strategy. They lack decent politics and the Scottish people know this. And there in lies the snp's and their supporters problem, they know they are wrong, don't care about the result but if they can continually bitch moan from the sidelines to promote victimhood politics then they think the Scottish people will fall for it, they won't and they haven't. Funny you should mention my morning glory, could I ask you stop pm'ing me asking for pictures of it, ta
Your relying on a 15 year forecast when they can't even get next quarters inflation / deficit predictions right. TB
Also it's from Hammond who recently said if we go to wto free trade option, he would leave the job and 5 of his staff would leave with him (I have no doubt his future job with the likes of JP Morgan has already been muted.) It again comes back to desperation, why is it out of 195 countries, do you think only 28 countries have the right way of doing it and how do the other 167 possibly manage? What is given we are around the 5th richest economy, that makes you think 190 countries below us economically can manage on wto and free trade, but we won't? In truth, the elite have got it how they want, the democratic vote reminded the elite, that our vote was for change as it's not how we want it.