British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Fair play to the French, different approach to getting things changed. Fuel could be 3 quid a litre and everyone would complain, but nothing more
     
  2. As you changed this 15 minutes ago, it enforces my point even further. Brexit or no brexit, the rascally racsals within them will always have the arse hole and leaving or staying will make no difference.

    This makes your previous point of if we leave, it will start terrorism again, a complete nonsense as you yourself state above
     
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  3. me? i expect we would be a net contributor before we go about quantifying the busines and social bennifits. but, therein lies the problem for the rUK gov and its parliment.
    can you guess what that might be?
     
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  4. What????
     
  5. Come on, the EU could quite easily sort out the border.issue. It's just another obstacle for them to be awkward
     
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  6. which is it as you have said both
     
  7. Good to know.

    The business and social benefits won't be anymore than they are now as your in the EU. The question now is will it cost more than what you believe England is sucking out of Scotland and will the Scots stand for it.

    I don't think they will.

    TB
     
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  8. :D
    oh god in heaven. aye. ok. :upyeah:
     
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  9. Brexit will bring the terorrists out of hiding and start again
    ahh don't worry, they always do that silly stuff

    One suggests they won't do silly stuff unless brexit is done and the other says they do silly stuff anyway

    You're not confusing contradictory and complimentary are you?
     
  10. The duty falls on the UK to resolve the border issue.
     
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  11. Where is that duty/obligation given they have offered a resolution of modern technology so avoiding the hard border of the past.

    The U.K. could put 30 ways forward but the eu is not for negotiating unless it is just their way or now way. The video of Verhofstadt infront of a commons brexit committee was quite revealing.

    Ireland will not put up a hard border
    U.K. will not put up a hard border
    The eu has said it doesn't want to put up a hard border
    but verhofstadt has said there will need to be one
     
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  12. Post 203 explains the absolute basics as to why.

    And, if I may take the liberty to anticipate your expert knowledge of the Good Friday Agreement as regards a hard border, you will have to read between the lines of the Agreement.
     
  13. Theresa May, under scrutiny of the select committee, has failed to identify the technological solution that may be employed.

    It appears the only way out is regulatory alignment.
     
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  14. Not quite correct. The only way out that the eu will allow is that we must remain in a customs union that has regulatory alignment. That is not the same as the only way out and we have options to leave that allows us to leave on our own terms
     
  15. Uodate :bucktooth:
    110 votes in:
    58 leave on wto rules
    29 remain and surrender to the bullies
     
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  16. OK, leave as it is, no?
     
  17. Today's Weather Reports, 1st Carney:
    Mark Carney has warned that a no-deal Brexit could see average food shopping bills rise by 10%.
    The Bank of England governor set out his view of the expected impact of crashing out of the EU without a withdrawal agreement as he appeared before MPs on the Treasury select committee.
    Food prices would be expected to see a sharp one-off rise as the impact of new tariff barriers and a plunge in the pound takes effect, he said.
    "In the most extreme scenario, on average your shopping bill goes up 10%," Mr Carney said.
    The bank had already warned last week that a disorderly Brexit could push the UK towards the biggest slump in modern memory, with the economy shrinking by 8%, house prices crashing 30%, unemployment nearly doubling and inflation spiralling to 6.5%.

    And then the former governor Mervyn King:
    "It saddens me to see the Bank of England unnecessarily drawn into this project. The Bank’s latest worst-case scenario shows the cost of leaving without a deal exceeding 10 percent of GDP. Two factors are responsible for the size of this effect: first, the assertion that productivity will fall because of lower trade; second, the assumption that disruption at borders — queues of lorries and interminable customs checks — will continue year after year.

    Neither is plausible. On this I concur with Paul Krugman. He’s no friend of Brexit and believes that Britain would be better off inside the EU — but on the claim of lower productivity, he describes the Bank’s estimates as “black box numbers” that are “dubious” and “questionable.” And on the claim of semi-permanent dislocation, he just says, “Really?” I agree: The British civil service may not be perfect, but it surely isn’t as bad as that.

    Good article by MK in the Telegraph and I think old hands like MK and Digby Jones have a better grasp on the situation than Mr Carney."
     
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  18. So when will the EU roll out the Social Credit System like that in China. Scary Bananas
     
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