British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. like the 6 scottish politicions that had to take the article 50 issue to court because the uk gov didnt want you knowing it was revokeable.
     
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  2. If I remember rightly during the build up to the referendum basically the remain campaign was all negative. The leave campaign was all positive ( might have been a lot of bollox but it was positive).
    Perhaps that’s why the vote was just for leave, more people wanted a bit of positivity
     
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  3. The point here is that a Norway or Switzerland situation was touted as the result of a leave vote, then when the leave vote was secured (by a small margin), the goalposts were moved and Brexit means wrecks it took over. The marginal leave vote result should have meant a soft Brexit but that is not what we are getting, we are getting a fudge to appease Rees Mogg but it doesn't appease him or please anybody else.
     
  4. Very possibly.
    The benefits of membership were never talked up, just the dire consequences of leaving and that was effectively countered by talk of project fear and what do experts know.
     
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  5. There were a lot of possibilities mentioned at the time, including absolute Armageddon from the remain who won the majority of airtime... and if the country had stuck together we would not have ended up with a deal written by the EU. Do you not find the disguising way the EU Council have bullied repulsive? And the Brussels tactics of slowly creating a Federal Europe negative for all EU countries? Leaving in the long run cannot benefit both or harm both equally, so why do you think the EU are so pissed off with us leaving - it's really that simple. We just need to grow some balls as a country.
     
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  6. Go find these benefits - they couldn't :eyes:
     
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  7. To me it’s the same after the vote. BBC seems to be negative about the whole thing, as does most media.
    I do wonder if there was (bizarrely) another vote whether it would be even more for leave. If only because of all the doom and gloom from the remain side.
     
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  8. What a pile of old shite, Snp supporters and governments have been actively involved in the most recent scottish and U.K. independence referendums. BOTH times they have ignored the legal democratic vote of the people and sought to refuse to accept that decision and sought to have them both re-run again.

    They choose whatrules they want to abide by, have refused the last two independence results and then lecture others on freedom and respect, bunch of fecking cockwombles
     
  9. Trade barriers harm both sides pretty much equally, so bad for us, bad for them - bad all-round.

    Armageddon can still happen if we leave with no negotiated settlement.

    Every time a settlement looks closer, the pound rises in value - why is that??

    Not sure what you mean about the country sticking together avoiding a deal written by the EU
     
  10. Lots of them but how about free, frictionless trade for starters?
     
  11. Absolutely agree with that, we need to grow some balls and fight for what we want. That said i am not convinced we would be any worse off than our current situation with a no deal brexit.
     
  12. We all know May is a Remainer despite all her pronouncements - I reckon she knows exactly where it is all heading and much of what has happened is a deliberate operation to ensure the whole Brexit issue folds and it goes nowhere.
     
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  13. At the moment the drama is calculated drama on behalf of the pm and her advisors into scaring them into voting for her soft brexit. It will be refused on the 11th but what follows will have steers and chess moves to try and keep the eu and business happy whilst trying to still claim they achieved brexit
     
  14. Far too much scaremongering going on by the media making the situation much much worse than it needs to be
     
  15. That would be still available as an agreement and be a net benefit to EU but they wish to 'punish' us - next :yum
     
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  16. We do???
    Only as a Switzerland or Norway arrangement.

    Why would any club want to provide better arrangements/facilities/conditions for non-members than members. It's about firmness, not punishment.
     
  17. You have been involved all along clearly - you don't even know May is a remainer :thinkingface: and any agreement would be possible without the bullies :):upyeah:
     
  18. All the hoo har about the legal agreement and this morning it turns out to be little more than what was declared in parliament. It's annoying the hell out those who asked for it as it has nothing new in it.
     
  19. And exactly how it’s continued since.
     
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