Okay so your answer, just so that I’m clear does not (and therefore cannot) Provide quantifiable demonstrable forecasts of the financial costs and gains of Brexit in either the short medium or long term? No evidence. Anyone who read this back (inasmuch as it matters) will see there’s no attempt to quantify your financial claims. I’m not attempting to trip you up but that’s a poor response.
Perhaps we should just agree to disagree. My basic take on all this is that politicians in general have proved they just say what they think will get them elected. For example - Corbyn promising to get rid of university fees. There’s probably loads more examples from all of them. All the politicians seem to do is look after themselves and their friends / colleagues. Whichever way anyone voted in the referendum, you will be disappointed with what has happened since.
Totally agree. However, he did promise to act upon the result, as did the subsequent government. Leavers have their Battle Bus, Remainders have the promises of Governments. Call it a draw : o D
Dude, have a word with yourself. We cannot even project the financial effects of Remaining - you want a reliable forecast for leaving? Anything else I can help you with ... your own Jurassic Park playground perhaps? Here is some verifiable data - trade happens. It always happens. Economic fortunes go up, they go down. Empires eventually fall. All of this proven repeatedly, through experience. In an uncertain economic future, because it can NEVER be certain, Leavers want the seat of power for the UK to be Westminster, not Brussels (or Strasbourg, or chez Soros, etc).
So in a direct question over Brexit finances addressed to someone else, even just a projection, anything, you mention George Soros? George Soros????? I have no issue with Noobies belief, but when she tells people that their financial concerns are nonsense and likes a post calling those concerns “sensationalism” and isn’t prepared to demonstrate what he says, then there’s a problem. And now in answer to that Question, you mention George Soros??? (It could be any Soros for that matter).
That's not entirely correct If you mean evidence such as say, indi 1 that projected scotlands future would be paved with gold based on oil being at upto $130 a barrel and today it is $60.23 then for those blind on indi that golden future based on upto $130 a barrel was "evidence" of a mighty Scotland, in truth had you moved on indi 1 on the snp's own evidence, you would be in a position of total decimation financially. If you mean that kind of falsehood claimed as evidence, then no, I have no figures that will sooth your beying brow IF however you are after actual facts, I can give you those based on decades of financial proven events. With every major change in the U.K. a dip has happened but because of our economy, resilience and determination, we have rebuilt every time to be come more prosperous. That is a fact any one can see as the true figures, and not fancy 30 year predictions by people who have difficulty projecting the next two years Other than basing my future and suspected beneficial financial situation on what has happened and how we always rebuild, those are probably the most accurate facts you will get in the brexit situation and probably the best, even if it's not the one you want, response out there
[QU OTE="1976dc, post: 1247797, member: 27758"]I referred specifically to the financial aspects of Brexit. I did so deliberately. Not Europe, not the dictats of Europe. I’ve no quarrel about your views on Europe (Having studied law for years, I think they are drastically wrong) but I’ve no quarrel with them. It’s the position on the finances I would like you to demonstrate.[/QUOTE] Here you go...
Are you really going to obsess over Soros instead of taking the thrust of my counter-argument? Really? If Soros is a non-issue, treat him as such. Anyway. No one in their right mind will tell you that there will not be pain arising from as large a re-alignment as leaving the EU. There will be an non-quantifiable short-term effect. There will be a non-quantifiable medium-term effect. And a non-quantifiable long-term effect. With the result that we as a nation will not be tied to an empire-building oligarchy with a mania for open borders and multiple, potentially antagonistic monocultures in each territory (this is the Soros bit, by the way, in case you haven't been keeping up). History shows that after the pain, there comes the relief, as far as the economy goes. The economy will recover. It always does. OK, OK. You will want to know what the short-term pain is - it will be four and five-eighths widgets and will last will about 737 days. The medium-term is 3 fondlebergs and last for four years and six days. The long-term is 5 years, seven months and twelve days, give or take a half-hour and we will be ahead of the game by at least fifteen scrofulates and a petunia. Happy now? And don't call me silly, you're silly.
once again it seams loz and noob have been owned. you dont know, its cool, accept it, you're going on a wing and a prayer, cool. just say it. another correction, independence wasnt bassed on the price of oil, oil was the bonus. a wealth fund was to be created. btw, it costs 13-14 dollars to extract a barral of oil, at 65dolla a barral, we will have a real dirry time
Love to see the support for your 13-14 dollars extraction costs fin, knowing you are into facts and links You sure you're not confusing that with a litre of semi synth to your customers willis?
Oi, Village Eedjit, how's your homework coming along?! LOL Honestly, between dookie and fingerman, this is the best forum ever : o D
Oil & Gas UK’s latest report on the activities of exploration and production companies operating in the UK Continental Shelf (UKCS) charts the industry’s progress in the pursuit of competitiveness. Sector-wide action has pushed unit operating costs down by a third from an average of $29.30/barrel of oil equivalent (boe) in 2014 to $20.95/boe in 2015, aided by a 10 per cent rise in oil and gas production – the first in 15 years. Costs are expected to fall by a further 20 per cent this year to around $17/boe, representing a 42 per cent improvement in just two years. theres companys reporting lower costs in the north sea, cant mind the names, but with a bit of time i could find em. but, i think thats enough to prove the point.
Here you go... View attachment 138050 [/QUOTE] Surely this is wrong.....shouldnt it be on the back of a fag packet?
insults wont cut it, you was owned, its fine. you believe things will turn out fine with time. cool. chill angry guy.
Never read it. From what I gather, it is a little one-sided - like CNN, but in the other direction : o )
