British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. *I* wasn't, as you recall. So cruel to bring that up. Anyway ...

    AFAIK, no one has been told that they are not allowed to vote on the basis that they don't know what they are voting for. There is currently no provision in law to deny voter rights to the ill-informed (nor the stupid, the overly timid nor socialists)

    As you are doubtless aware, the number of times that Remainders have babbled on about ill-informed voters leads you to one of two conclusions - Remainders love to babble and bleat and kvetch about stuff they have no control over ... or they would like to have control over who votes. I like to think that Remainders are not simply whingers but that they wish to feel they serve some sort of purpose in life, even if I don't agree with their goals.

    Which is it, finderman? Whingers or voting reformers? Care to answer a question or are you saving yourself for a special day?
     
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  2. You guys need another great fire of London to “drain the swamp” a bit
     
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  3. i have asked you many many times, i expect an answer now. please stop diverting.
     
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  4. *Funny* or *Love You*

    Really tough call this time : o D
     
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  5. ah, loz, you want to talk about indi, the snp and salmond again *sigh* just answer the question. not some other question. but the one i asked. just once loz, just this once could you just answer the question.
     
    #19946 finm, Dec 13, 2018
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  6. I’m now trying to work out whether the government are going to;

    A Explain how hard they’ve worked but brexit just can’t happen.

    B Explain why we need a new referendum with the options of stay in the EU or don’t leave the EU.
     
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  7. Yeah, eu's influence is scaring the shit out of Putin :rolleyes:

    When you hear "you never knew what you voted for" it will almost always come from a remainer who also probably used "you didn't understand what you voted for" and "you don't understand the complexity of leaving in a way a remainer does"

    And yet when asked, most who democratically voted to leave saw it and knew what it was and in fact it is those most obstinate cry babies who lost a DEMOCRATIC election struggle with leave.

    So for those, I offer clarity at a level that might help many remainers.

    The view of the U.K. within an ever centalising eu


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    That^^ is not vote leave
     
    #19948 noobie, Dec 13, 2018
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  8. always a beer and and opener to hand at my place.
     
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  9. Makes mental note. Fin DOES understand the difference after all, who knew, worth bookmarking for future events :D
     
  10. your opinion is valid sir and we should take anyone's opinion as such, even those who talk to their cat and believe it talks back :D
     
  11. Your cat sounds like an expert. But an expert I can respect.

    Again I ask, are you prepared to stump up for the examples of how limited the utility of experts is in a complex world?

    Or are you asking for them pro bono? Don't be proud now if you cannot do research and observation, there's no shame in it. Your cat will still love (and shred) you, regardless.
     
  12. Experts-Lobbyists-think tanks

    You'd be surprised just how many rely on money from the same people
     
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  13. More than happy to answer any and all of your questions, finderman, you know this.

    Has @shadow said you can take his turn? He'll need to confirm that he no longer wants those examples he asked for and has ceded his question to you.
    Cos you're a scamp and will nick anything, even another forum member's turn during Loz Minister's Questions.
     
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  14. Didn't read it it, I thought he had simply sneezed.

    Should I read it?
     
  15. I think he just copy and pasted the wrong part instead of the usual dross from some one legged, one eyed alcoholic blogger.

    I suspect he will realise his mistake and correct it soon
     
  16. It’s cute isn’t it that JRM has bitterly complained about a further referendum based upon the actual facts of the withdrawal deal and accused advocates of this as deeply undemocratic.

    Yet he has today repeteadly bitched over the result of a very simple confidence vote in Theresa May and has said in no uncertain terms that Theresa May should go, despite that vote. Effectively saying that simple vote should be ignored. He was seething last night in the interviews he gave.

    When extolling the virtues of Brexit the only substantive thing he has ever said (repeatedly said to the point I’ve lost count) is cheaper children’s shoes.
     
  17. IMO either are what was the likely outcome from the start and even more likely when May became PM.
     
  18. no dont read it. well, more you cant read it, it contains no editroom clips from the X,FILES, no consiprcy? meh, not for loz.
     
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  19. Steady on old chap, are you suggesting than an MP is being just a tiny weeny bit hypocritical ? Next you will be suggesting they are in it for themselves and not the good of the country !
     
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