British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. cheers noobster. but i will watch the corrections later.:upyeah: like the last time she appeared on sky news. they really shouldn't use tory press releases as a substitute for a gov document.
    suckers
     
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  2. Shush, Alan.

    This is a discussion about the sky falling in. We will have no talk of silver linings and positive outcomes, thankyouverymuch.
     
  3. Trust your government!

    Listen to finderman, he knows stuff.
     
  4. you will get a tax cut for the price of a bit of workers rights loz. seems fair?
     
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  5. Or from within a trading block like the EU.
    A 45-50% tariff on meat is punitive, maybe this is why no countries are currently trading under pure WTO rules
     
  6. Listen to duke, he talks to people not as many as robbo though
     
  7. WTO rules have tariffs so it’s not free trade. Here’s a quote from the WTO’s General Director if you don’t beleave me.

    “it's not going to be a walk in the park. It's not like nothing will happen. There will be an impact. The tendency is that prices will go up of course, [because] you have to absorb the cost of that disruption."”
     
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  8. Seems fair. Remainders want to be ruled by a foreign power in exchange for cheaper BMWs, I think I'm getting a bargain in comparison.

    Besides, if we as a people do not want a reduction in workers' rights, we have only to tell our own democratically elected UK government of our wishes.

    You know ... if we actually care about the issue instead of wanting to just mouth off about it.
     
  9. what rules would you change?
     
  10. So is that a table of tariffs?
    They seem very odd figures, is there even one round percentage?
     
  11. Sorry. :confused:

    Thing is all the doom and gloom gets me down, so I look for something that may be positive.

    To me the EU is (rightly) protecting the EU, but doesn’t care about individual countries.

    The workers rights thing keeps coming up too. I think if things got that bad in the workplace then workers would end up joining unions again. All the positive EU stuff for workers is just what workers unions used to do.
     
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  12. None. I'm happy.

    How about you? Ask your staff and get back to me.
     
  13. I thought we had moved on from the in/out discussion, it’s about the deal we get.

    Your answer is, money just moves around in different ways. Very comprehensive, seems like we’ve got it covered...
     
  14. Essentially though, it does

    The deeper you drill down into the detail, the less confident you can be about predicting behaviours in this, the most chaotic system on the planet.

    The only thing in commerce that can be relied upon is: trade happens. It's the only constant.
     
  15. We have moved on but such is any forum direction, sometimes it goes backwards, zig zags and if snp supporters are involved, who the fuck knows direction :D

    Mays deal everyone agree's is a trap by the eu to keep the U.K. as a eu franchise and it's more than just the border issue. One of the bits of the deal says if we the uk, gets a better deal with another third country, that the eu already deals with, then the eu can block our deal as we did better than they did.

    Let me put the political point forward. Once we go to wto/free trade, the eu loses all political leverage by using Ireland. Now, from that point it becomes as it always has been, about trade and not about an agreement that will crumble unless the eu gets its own way, because the good friday agreement will not crumble.

    How long, with the politicians removed from the subject, do you think it will take inter trade will be dealt with?
     
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  16. cant think off any of the top of my head. i would probably go with the recommendations of a Levison 2. but that would be a uk gov matter. cant think why they wont do it tho..
     
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  17. Why do you say the EU doesn't care about individual countries?
    Do you mean countries inside or outside the EU?
     
  18. Claptrap.
    It's to avoid breaking the GFA treaty and you know it
     
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