British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Skimmed admitedly but two points stood out quite quick, this is a projected model by an economic theorist and as such throws in many variables for both sides and secondly when you find him, in the Toulouse school of economics
    https://www.tse-fr.eu/people/thomas-chaney?tab=cv

    hover over "research" tab at the top, from the options select "grants" and you will see he and a number of his colleagues, ergo their research, is funded by the european research council

    https://www.tse-fr.eu/research-projects
     
  2. Why oh why didn't Canadaland join the EU when they had the chance?
     
  3. So you do agree that we should honour majority democratic votes by the people then?
     
  4. It's been explained to you time and again why I believe we will be "better off".. It's not my fault your zealotry has messed with your memory.

    I have not argued that we will strike "better deals" on our own although many informed individuals here and elsewhere have done so. I have admitted the *possibility* that we will, though, as would you if you were just honest for a moment. And would you like to clarify what *you* mean by "better off"? Or would you like to continue to make fluffy, imprecise arguments against what you think people are saying to you? Cos, I mean, that is working out *so* well for you so far : o D

    Wait. Soros is behind *everything*? I thought he was just into crashing economies, currency manipulation, people trafficking and population substitution. Are you saying he's responsible for global warming now?
    That dude must never sleep!
     
  5. Even I know that one, the vote was in favour of leaving the EU
     
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  6. Unimpressive is an understatement.

    Probably the most unimpressive is Junker

    Remainers seem to have made the most noise, and to me have had the most influence on the media.
    I think ‘quitters’ have been branded all sorts by the media, which doesn’t help people like me understand it all.
     
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  7. Ah Alan, you fell into that dastardly Shadow's trap.

    Some people vote to leave the EU but Remain in the EU.
    Some folk voted to Remain in the EU but call it "Leaving".
    Some people thought they were voting for the winner of Strictly.
    Some people voted because they are racists.
    Some people voted because of a red bus.

    I think two people voted to leave the EU on WTO terms, but it may have been only one, and the other put the cross in the wrong box (he wanted to stay in the EU but on WTO terms).

    Shadow, you crafty rascal you.
     
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  8. The only option of the multiple of options mentioned, that totally matched the vote, was wto and free trade. A genuine, "the eu has no control over us anymore" option.

    The rest of the multiple options mentioned, mostly by remainers who sought any way to ignore the obvious, is what has confused and allowed the government to look even more feeble than they are.

    The result of trying to placate the minority vote has been two years wasted and you do have to wonder if that was the plan all along, to confuse, manipulate obstigate and delay it in such a way, that we got near the deadline just to say, we are not ready so lets just forget about it.

    Thankfully we are not and the wto and free trade deal is gaining ground. There is only one hurdle now to getting on with it, mp's. Both of the main parties, and others, voted to launch the referendum, voted to accept the decision and voted to launch article 50.

    Everything they said and voted for was to carry out the vote majority but now they have a dilema and it has become politicians willing to overturn majority to block the free trade and wto deal voted for because they don't like it.

    650 politicians telling 17.4 million voters, we don't care how you voted, we are not allowing the majority democratic decision. P.s. don't forget to vote for me at the next election, love you :heart:
     
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  9. yes
    the vast majority of the media is pro brexit.
     
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  10. Bed of roses?
     
  11. Not sure, it would help if the researchers in the links you keep putting up, where not funded by the eu
     
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  12. even though it is, of all the options mentioned, only one actually leaves the euwto and free trade, the rest leaves control in the eu's hands which was not voted for. The rest of your post just shows how desperate some remainers are that they tried and continue to try and confuse what a simple word like leave is.

    The people were given a democratic choice, you just don't like it because it's not yours
     
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  13. Your northern tv must be a different one to that of the south then fin because down here, it is very much anti democratic vote and anti brexit.
     
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  14. Your funny. ;)

    They are worth a read, some folks might learn a few things from them. Even biased articles (from both sides of the argument) have nuggets of truth to be found, but you need an open mind for that.
    Keep going though :upyeah:
     
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  15. Oh, oh, I know, you point out the true bits...……………….. :bucktooth:
     
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  17. Are they in the 28? No

    Do they have to make contributions to the eu even though they are not in the 28? yes, just like the other eea members of Iceland and Liechtenstein.
    They do have the ECJ as their end state legal body and have to abide by their decisions
    They do have to abide by the four freedoms
    The majority of their laws are from the eu

    All of that, We have voted to leave so what is your point other than an attempted distraction?
     
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  18. Of course I'm open minded, That's why I read what is offered and how I also find out the economists put forward (you put them forward), who are telling us we mustn't leave the eu, are funded by the eu
     
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