British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. How about - UK stay in EU and other 27 members leave?
     
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  2. Wouldn’t we have to change our name from UK to EU then ?
     
  3. The remain side and parliament have been continually doing this since the vote.

    The vote was leave or stay, Parliament has continually tried to turn that into leave but depending on the deal, which is largely ignoring the vote
     
  4. Possibly FU?
     
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  5. Uk politics is embarrassing really, it’s about time it changed somehow
     
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  6. The political system is fine. It's the self serving and childish politicians that are the problem. :rolleyes:
     
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  7. I still feel that there is a chance that UK politics, after 29 March, will begin to attract serious politicians who are interested in governing ... instead of self-absorbed administrators with delusions of grandeur and no clue about what it is to actually govern.

    LOL. No, I don't think there is much chance of that. However, I really do want it to be true and it may even happen.
     
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  8. I’m not so sure it is, this lot have risen to the top so something isn’t right.
    Was trying to do a bit of research, have politicians always just been that ?
    Perhaps changing it so they have to have worked in industry or something first would help.
    Same with teachers etc, everything seems to be get a degree and away you go, no real world experience anymore.
     
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  9. I really hope you are right on this one.
     
  10. All the time that the EU has effectively been the top table with regard to UK governance, there has been little incentive for true visionary leaders or people-with-a-plan to enter into UK politics. Why would you bother, when the set-in-stone political course charted for the UK has been laid out by a committee in Brussels?

    No. What we have had, probably since Maastricht, is a conveyor belt of new politicians who lack any true ambition, any real conviction and who are happy to simply go through the motions of government ... plus a few of the old guard who are too stubborn to jack it in, or too stupid to realise what has been happening.

    If the EU is removed as the guiding force for this country, it is entirely possible that people with leadership skills and political ability, people who possess ambition and vision, will again be attracted to the idea of being in government.

    Worth a shot, surely?
     
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  11. Definitely.

    and when they ‘resign’ or get sacked they shouldn’t be allowed to work :thinkingface: in politics, perhaps ever again or for a set period ?
     
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  12. I worked as an installation manager for a company installing windows, doors etc on social housing projects in the NE (EU funded....) and it was laughable. Window “installers” that I would not trust to tie my laces, who had certification and qualifications in the industry after being “observed” on site. Basically tick box qualifications. Anything complicated, top quality finishing or needing to draw on experience and they were screwed. But better qualified than my 30 plus years of experience. Mad.

    Politicians though, don’t need any real qualification to be finance or agriculture minister. Just part of the old boy network and be in “the click”. JC, has he ever been anything except a student, then politician? Too many go straight to politics, work place and life experience should be compulsory. It attracts the worst kind of people imo as it is.
    Balance is required, and not token ethnic/ LGB representation. We need people from a much broader spectrum and much less Oxford and Cambridge types, who assume they have the right to govern. It’s all very one dimensional.
     
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  13. I think Corbyn is probably the best (worst?) example of politicians nowadays
     
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  14. I'm pretty sure most of the problem is that no-one dare make a decision without the help of "Consultants".

    And the definition of a consultant is someone who know a 1000 ways to make love, but doesn't know any women.

    TB
     
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  15. when the computers off, it stays off loz bot. i can do that, i see you struggle to free yersel from the divisive devises tho. take a holiday and have a HNY. 2019 is gonna be a busy yin.
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  16. Holiday photo the finm? :thinkingface:
     
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  17. yer dam tootin, over 1.5k spunked in 3days. but hayho. well spent.
     
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  19. Can hardly see the blue of Edinboro on the map it's so tiny, is that why you went tiny dude :thinkingface:
    Welcome back :):upyeah:
     
  20. 70%remain in the bro.
    i can see this changing hands shortly
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