British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. i dont. well, i do like to preach :p but i don't recon the "uk" will flourish. your gonna ask me why, and i will answer that question...
     
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  2. Let me know when fin, My doctor thinks I have narcolepsy and asked when do I suffer this the most, I mentioned your posts, so he wants to see more research, Cheers
     
  3. cool, best we get on it then, he might be a lil more overworked come the 29th of march no?
     
  4. Naaahhh, were British fin. We may do things in a zig zaggy way but we almost always end up on top.
     
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  5. That boy soooo thirsty : o D
     
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  6. The facts speak for themselves:

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  7. I think you'll find that the reductions highlighted above are NOTHING to do with the Euro and everything to do with climate change, the rise of populism and ever-increasing fillintheblankophobia.

    Oh and Trump. TrumpTrumpTRUMPTrump. Trump. Trump.
     
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  8. What I find funny amongst SOME remianers is just the total unwillingness to listen to facts about the eu in favour of "we love you eu"

    I'll give a brief example, during the last summer and the eu loving media were pushing "no one voted to be worse off" and then followed with "the U.K.'s growth prediction had been lowered by one percent due to world trade, sanctions between russia, china and the U.S." and those worst of remaoners kept ignoring the word growth that even to this day, every financial expert agrees applies to the U.K. and all they saw was "cliff edge"

    Take a short trip on a plane of 1.50 hrs and you are in Berlin where the German finance minister said they had cut their financial growth forecast for 2018 from 1.8 to 1.5/1.6 and he blamed world trade, sanctions between russia, china and the U.S." as well, as we had but also the german auto industry and the changes electrification would bring.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...sed-for-further-growth-minister-idUSKCN1OX02W

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-g...e-sector-growth-worry-investors-idUKKCN1NS0OS

    We point our continual growth, were doomed, anyone else does it, they are champions, funny old world

    Given the first link shows germany's growth is the lowest of the last four years and the eu mep elections for all countries of the eu are only a few months away, it will be interesting if the new meps reflect the old eu or the new face of europe with more nationalism.
     
  9. I did find it funny after national democratic elections by the Brazilians for their new Brazilian president starting his role yesterday, Verhofstadt said

    https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1080489744033816577
     
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  10. I have come to the conclusion that for many Remainders, their fervor for the EU is full-on religious zealotry.

    It's like, certain personalities must have a religious belief to follow, blindly and uncritically, and since Christianity no longer fits the shoe, the belief in an "European Union" (with a side-order of Islamophilia) replaces what has been lost from their lives and their emotional state.

    Tell me I am joking here. Go on.
     
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  11. Don't you worry, the EU has Brazil firmly in its sights for ultimate EU membership.

    After Venezuela, obviously.
     
  12. i dontr think you are joking, i think you truly believe yer own pish loz. its quite possible to look at the two and work out who has fugged the country while considering the liklyhood of a moderate centre party thats competent enough being elected any time soon then thinking to yersel, hmm, now is not the time.
     
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  13. Fin, Germany are one of the biggest polluters of air quality in europe because of there dependence on coal, their economy has largely been built on that reliance and cheapness. There are massive costs to be faced by German industry at a time were people are moving away from automobiles.

    The reason for pointing it out is that the eu want you to see only the good bits and many fall for that, in practice the whole of the eu will have massive infrastructure needs (brexit or no brexit) and given the drop in forecasted growth throughout the eu (something when said the U.K. was having, we were told it was bad) , then thankfully it highlights why in some area's, individual countries will be able to deal with things more effectively when not tied to an oil tanker trying to turn, or not.

    One thing you can always say about the eu, Germany will put Germany first
     
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  14. finderman, come on man. Wake the fuck up!

    It's been twenty years or more since this country, the UK, has had a top table of government residing in Westminster. The leadership playbook has been written by the EU, all the important decisions are made by the EU, the country's direction is dictated by the EU. Spending is controlled, the economy is controlled. Laws are controlled. Speech is controlled. By people we can never vote for or against.

    You, of all people, should understand this. Your government, which I refer to as the Scottish County Council, is in the same boat as the Westminster one. I don't call Holyrood a County Council because I wish to disparage the Scottish, whom I generally admire - I do so to call attention to the fact that the Northernmost region of the UK has no autonomy and to claim otherwise is deluded at best and disingenuous at worst. You get to fiddle around the edges of government up there but if you wanted to try something truly innovative and radical, the harsh leash of devolved government would be yanked in no uncertain terms. You know this!

    Doubt that? No, you don't. You can see the same kind of choke chain being applied to the UK by the globalists after the Brexit referendum and if you step outside your "better together" bubble for one single, shining moment, you will admit the truth of what I am saying.

    There is little point bemoaning the state of our politicians at this time. They aren't allowed to govern, they are constricted and guided. If we somehow break the choke-hold of the EU and globalism, we might see a sea change in political leadership in this country. Two mighty big Ifs there, I grant you.

    Obviously, it is simpler and far less effort to meekly accept where "our" leaders are taking us. To place our trust in an authority with big plans for us. I understand your instinct for "easy life" but I am telling you, it isn't easy life we are headed for while we are shackled to the EU. It is disaster on a societal, a civilisational, scale.

    Anyway, get back to your Monopoly game - I hear you're quite good at it.
     
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  15. but but but noob, you cant put your country first in the EU...
    why would coal use increase massivly if growth is low and their green sector is booming? :thinkingface:
     
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  16. you know what loz, i will read this. i promise. but no the noo, v,busy.
     
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  17. But will you answer?

    : o D
     
  18. maybe, but just the once. its no the fuggin spannish inquisition brw.
     
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  19. Actually I feel your getting it fin :D. Where the eu falls down internationally is that it is not a country, it is a trading block trying to be a country and that is the commissioners wish, at some point the next progression would logically be there would be no countries just you are a citizen of the eu. This as always favours the countries that are at the top table but not at the bottom.

    Ahh on coal, had you read rather than skimmed, I never said coal use would increase massively. I think I see why you struggle :D
     
  20. i know, you said they are the biggest poluters due to coal use, i guess if we manufactured anything we would be too. yet they have a booming renewable sector. mare noob spin yah ken.
     
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