British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. no time or inclination (or spell check on this computer) to go into it.after years of researching our own issues up here, i'm more innclined to believe they, like all countries that have gained their independence from the uk gov as succeedding, despite the actions of the uk.
    its a deep ingrained belief thats been promoted over the decades that everywhere is to small to poor to dumb to go it alone.
     
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  2. FREEDOM!!!!!!
     
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  4. I was actually directly referencing an idea behind your post here:

    I would argue, unpopularly I have no doubt, that it is not for government to achieve great things at all.

    It is for people, citizens, to achieve great things and it is government's job to stay out of the way of that.

    I understand that this view will attract little positive attention in a UK-based forum. I realise that I am flying in the face of the British collectivist spirit.
     
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  5. I really have no idea who I would vote for if there was a GE.
    what great achievements have any of them done in recent history ?
     
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  6. I’m a UKer and I’d agree with that, I’m not sure politicians would though - surely they want to be remembered for having done ‘great things’ ?
     
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  7. Terrible criteria, Alan.

    Vote for least interference and fewest fuck-ups - always.
     
  8. I didn’t really mean for the two comments to be linked.

    But - if we have a non-Interfering, non-fuckup gov they why have them at all ?
     
  9. I meant ‘why’ in response to @finm post ‘dross’ and he’s answered that :upyeah:
     
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  10. Protection from foreign enemies is the first and only real requirement for a central government.

    After that, all roles are negotiable. I would argue that there is a happier middle ground between ultra-minimalist government and what we have now, in the UK.

    I expect to persuade precisely no one though, here on the forum. I understand, really I do : o )
     
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  11. I answered it, too : o D
     
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  12. Some of us remainers already knew that the EU has a hard border around it, and that if the UK was to leave then they would not be treated differently.

    This isn't a surprise, nor have the EU "owned up". It was obvious from the outset. :rolleyes:
     
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  13. Ah, you're back - toddle off and answer post number #601 my fellow mixed up European :):upyeah:
     
  14. People still seem to think we can deal with these people. :thinkingface:

     
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  15. When you say "obvious from the outset", do you also mean "lied about by the EU from the outset"?

    Asking for a friend who was lied to by the EU from the outset.
     
  16. I realised that there would be no deal with these people.

    From the outset.
     
  17. Shhh, my fellow European is just answering my question :eyes:
     
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  18. So UK cannot exit, regardless of anything it does, because of GFA.

    And yet UK Govt get blamed for wanting a hard border...and we are not controlled by Brussels : unamused:

    Tune. Changed. Remainers. By.

    Make of that what you will ;)
     
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