Well...no actually. When there's one element that just doesn't work for one party, but the rest is probably as good as you're going to get for either party, why would you not try to find a way through? Surely when they 'asked' Barnier to act on thier behalf, the other 27 expected him to act in their interest too? With the stakes so high for both parties, I'd have thought the other 27 would be insisting absolutely EVERYTHING was done to secure a UK exit that benefits (or at least causes as little damage as possible to) them. I have no expectation that they'd have any interest in the damage to the 28th. Of course, if at the end there's no palateable solution, then hard Brexit it must be and maybe that's where we're heading. God forbid we should get to that because someone wouldn't talk any more.
Well of course, the EU might be just using another negotiating tactic and that despite what the Irish are saying about the backstop, they might not be serious. Who knows? But we'll find out quite soon. Personally, I expect that the Irish are serious and if they insist on the backstop, the other 26 will have to lump it because that is the way the EU works. You have to remember that the EU: 1. doesn't want the UK to leave. This is because the EU is a more powerful trading bloc with the UK in it. And because the EU wants as much of Europe to be united as possible. And because the UK is a net payer-in. 2. doesn't want anyone else to leave. So it needs to make it uncomfortable for the UK to "encourager les autres" as the expression has it. 3. knows it will have a second bite at the cherry because after the agreement, the real negotiations on trade and everything else begin 4. The EU members will feel pain when the UK leaves, but the UK is one market for them. For the UK, the EU is a much bigger market. Where does the balance of power lie?
Serves you right for going with Theresa. Anyone would have told you (if you asked) that she is unreliable.
You have to expect that the 27 are reasonably happy with the deal, or it wouldn't be proposed. They will have looked at it and signed off on it. It might not be all that they wished for, but the best compromise they think they could get.
True, but sadly Jezza is equally unreliable. Would he even have been able to give you a lift to see the bike? Can he drive?
Barclays is moving €190bn (£166bn) of assets to Dublin because it "cannot wait any longer" to implement its Brexit contingency plan. The High Court, which has approved the move, says the move involves 5,000 clients. However, few jobs in London are expected to be affected. The business amounts to around 15% of the bank's £1.2 trillion in total assets and was previously conducted in the UK through branches across the EU. The plans will be in place by 29 March. The bank's Dublin operation is expected to double in size to 300 people as a result of the business being channelled though the Irish capital. Barclays in talks to expand Dublin office post-Brexit "As we announced in 2017, Barclays will use our existing licensed EU-based bank subsidiary to continue to serve our clients within the EU beyond 29 March 2019, regardless of the outcome of Brexit," the bank said. "Our preparations are well-advanced and we expect to be fully operational by 29 March 2019," it added. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47060676 That reads like it is a done deal, not a preparatory idea or plan, but one which will certainly happen with a commencement of 29/3 at the latest.
Dare I suggest it's you that is confused? Does the story say it is moving or may move in the event of a wto/free trade deal? Let me help you Barclays early last year said if no deal we will move, google will be your friend on them saying this throughout the last year The headline put up by shadow, perhaps you didn't read the first paragraph Barclays is preparing to pull the trigger on no-deal Brexit plans to shift assets worth £166bn (€190bn) to its Irish division as it "cannot wait any longer" amid continuing political uncertainty, a High Court judgment has revealed. Not has, already has, it's happening next week but preparing. They have had to go to the high court to transfer such a large amount and within various countries. Two parts to this The bbc article makes it a bit clearer and particulary this bit The scheme is based on a "no-deal" Brexit, the judgement said. This envisages the parts of the bank's business which is affected losing their "passporting" rights which currently allow them to conduct investment services activities in the remaining 27 EU member states. This clearly can be seen as both prudent management to spread the load as most multi nationals do all the time and can also be seen as project fear as it implies, you go no deal, we leave the U.K. Bit I cannot find a story which says they are leaving the uk or that they are shutting down the U.K. the only mention is 200 extra staff in the dublin arm. More people with jobs? winner winner chicken dinner https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47060676 How many in here use mce insurance and know the buy in business is based in the u.k. and another part of the business is in gibraltar? My point is barclays is covering all bases, has not announced any redundancies and has announced more jobs it's one of those things were people use the bbc tv example of "despite brexit" 200 people will have more jobs, no redundancies at the other place and a business shares the load as most business's do to ensure longevity. Some remainers think a candle going out is the sun has stopped burning, dey be crazy folk
I beg to differ about your idealistic belief in the democracy of the EU. The MEP's are like the House of Lords, they instigate nothing. For a snapshot of how things really work with the upper elite, take a look at the promotion of good old Martin Selmayr (I am sure you are already well aware!). The UK negotiation team came back with the best offer they could achieve from the EU, not a signed deal, or did I miss the signing ceremony? One that the EU 27 could accept? I bloody hope so, it receives £39 Billions and has given us FA and even determined we couldn't be trusted to be part of Galileo! The Withdrawal Deal then got destroyed by being voted against by 230 votes, just stone dead unless it can be revised. Rather like those fantastic concessions that Cameron came back with and the MEP's were already leaking that they'd challenge and vote against. They have misunderstood the steadily growing rejection of the direction that the EU has been heading in and have shown no interest in changing the project. There are many people throughout Europe that are turning to more extreme populist parties, but still the EU train runs ahead. The next Euro crisis is going to be ugly. Another pressure valve is going off in France against Macron. Even my wife came through a couple of minutes and she's more of a Remainer than I; she said she thought the EU language against May and no further renegotiation was madness! There are some dissenting voices from Germany: Detlef Seif: "I consider Donald Tusk's knee-jerk rejection of new negotiations over the EU Withdrawal Treaty .. irresponsible in the current situation. There is too much at risk." Mr Seif added the vote yesterday showed that the majority of MPs in the Commons don't reject the withdrawal treaty as a whole, but just the backstop. "This is understandable in terms of domestic politics, because if the backstop comes into force, the UK would remain tied to the EU through a customs union and wouldn't be able to conclude its own trade agreements. Northern Ireland would also partially remain in the EU single market." The proposal voted through yesterday which sees an alternative to the backstop is "in domestic political terms big progress", he added. Nigel Farage even defended the old girl: said that the European Commission had increased the chances of a no deal Brexit by humiliating the prime minister. "Before the referendum no one knew who the commission was, you guys are now household names,” he said, pointing at Mr Barnier and Mr Juncker, “What we’ve seen is an appreciation in Britain that unelected bureaucrats in Brussels have been talking down to and humiliating the Prime minister of our nation and we don’t like it.' "I accept she made a dreadful mistake by signing up to backstop,” he added, “She signed up to something that has proved to be a disaster, she signed up to something that no country, unless it had been defeated in war, would sign up to.”
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You misunderstand me. It's not really my problem. Just what i think will happen. You live in the UK. I don't.
You cannot say for sure as JC has yet to take a turn behind the wheel. You can only be certain about the evidence of the last 8 years - that the Torys certainly have had a car, a license too but have crashed frequently, done no maintenance, and are seemingly lost on a journey to nowhere. I fixed that to reflect accuracy.
Ah. Mr. Farage. Ever the diplomat. Always good to mention war - that goes down a treat. Always good to antagonise people you want a constructive conversation with - but he's been doing that for years. No wonder the EU don't like us much. Do you tend to tell garages that they are crooks before you try to buy a bike or a car from them?
Are we allowed to use 40 years of evidence of Corbyn and Mcdonald publicly being anti eu for that period? asking for a friend, shh Diane, they will find out it's you
That's a lot of incorrect assumptions going on there I am none of those and your last sentence is so far off the mark it is down right silly - for a man of your intellect
depends whose side you're on? If you mean the french and germans (it's not like they haven't worked together before, and swiss banks benefited greatly from it) continually asking for an eu army as they can no longer rely on nato, then who is mentioning which war? Depends if they look like hipsters
If you are right in your claim above, then surely you must want JC & McD; as an anti EU leader - given all your other posts- is the ideal?
He was the catalyst that started the reaction and the EU should have heeded the fact that the UK voted for more UKIP MEP's than any other UK party. They had plenty of warning but just ignored it. Things could have been so different and that really is rather sad. Again just to state the obvious; we are leaving the EU but not Europe.
Sadly, JC doesn't look like much of a driver to me. He looks more like the woman (or man!) who can't read the map and keeps berating the driver for driving too slowly, too fast, or in the wrong direction. All of those things may be true, but it doesn't mean he'd know what to do with the wheel and pedals if someone shouted, "Alright! You drive then!" My confidence in him running the country? Zero. My confidence in the current lot running the country? Zero. It's all a bit poxy This is the crowning irony of Brexit: Everyone is desperate to regain control of the car, but none of them knows how to drive. They were probably better off in their Uber.