British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. @Robarano you beat me to it.

    Ridiculous reporting.
     
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  2. Not so much ‘just fine’ as not as bad as is being reported.
     
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  3. No no no, Alan. It's an either or. Fine or disaster.

    Stupid folk struggle with shades of grey, it must be one or the other. Keeps things simple for them. They do like simple.
     
  4. Insults rarely strengthen an argument
     
  5. Totally agree.

    Personally I think that was a lot of what let the remain campaign down.
     
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  6. I certainly have no intention of introducing insults into the discussion.

    Calm rational assessments, always!
     
  7. Having thought about it some more would it also be fair to say

    When will they realise that not a single self-respecting leaver believes a word they say and everything is going to be a disaster.

    Perhaps this is why neither side will agree with the other, one side can only see good and one side can only see bad ?
     
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  8. Business has a right to be angry or at least not best pleased. Whilst they would have preferred the status quo, they will adapt but also don't confuse that with brexit being the only time multinationals have flexed. How many in here know Ford has not build cars in the U.K. and haven't since 2012 I believe.

    Motor sales at the moment world wide are pretty stagnant in some areas and downright sliding in others. Diesel and Germangate has largely fucked the diesel car, some companies dependent on the chinese market have become undone with the tariff wars at the moment, add poor management and certainly one turd floats to the top, JLR, but lets blame brexit ay.

    Your right on the pessimism versus optimism Alan, one side see's the long term benefits and the other seems hell bent on but I'm alright and I don't like changes.
     
  9. Agree on the business, but I suppose given opportunity to blame something else why not ? I’m sure we’d probably all do the same.

    To me it’s a bit scary concerning that just over half the people that voted are in a position that they’d rather ‘risk’ the change of leaving than let things continue as they were.
     
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  10. Just maybe it's less of a risk to leave.... :thinkingface:
     
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  11. Yea, not sure I phrased that right.

    More people want things to change ?
     
  12. What I find astonishing about the reporting on the sales slump in diesels is that it's rarely followed with the finger pointing at the German test cheating. Barely anything is being pinned on them as though it never happened, but it's still going on in the background

    https://europe.autonews.com/automak...g-firm-iav-pleads-guilty-vw-emissions-scandal

    Nor does anyone reference the ridiculous and outspoken tone coming from certain politicians in the wake of it all.

    Sadiq Khan for example was all over the news threatening to ban diesels from London. Completely over the top and knee jerk statements like that devalued existing owners cars and would have also impacted sales of brand new cars with a diesel engine.
     
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  13. Just a reminder that even if Brexit is permitted to go ahead:
    • May signed up for integration of UK Armed Forces and the EU Army over the course of 2016/17 - after we voted Leave
    • May signed up for the UN Migrant Compact, which makes Schengen look more like Colditz in terms of free movement - after we voted Leave
    May lied to us all when she told us that the WA would secure our borders. The WA would have no power whatsoever to mitigate the UN Migration Compact.

    If you have time, you ought to watch this nuanced and thought-provoking counter-narrative on mass immigration. If you care to tell me that it is xenophobic bollocks, that is confirmation enough that you didn't last the entire video.
     
  14. So presumably at 11am they'll be a synchronised wailing organised somewhere in London?

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  15. well, that was a waist of 40 odd minutes of my life. nothing everybody should of know already.
    she spent the first 15 installing fear of the rapist immigrant. on a planet with 7billion people. well done, she found some storys, then the rest of it blowing apart the brexiteers "walled Europe" argument. nothing on the individual countries gov failures. nothing on the causes of mass immigration, bar a few a few stories of traffickers. offers no solutions. unless her method is to fire up the locals in the hope they will elect anti immigration leaders.
    from a Canadian, who's country does not boarder the worlds hot spots and totally contrary to the experiences of the two lads who work with me and an old boss who spent 20years there.
    hyperbole. dear dear dear, over exposed yerself there loz.
     
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  16. I keep reading that; ‘Under the current Brexit deal, the 310-mile Irish border would become the only land border between the EU and the UK.’

    What about Gibraltar–Spain, as Gibraltar is a part of the UK of GB & I too, and has MEP representation as part of South West England?
     
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  17. Seriously desperate now - plans to evacuate the Queen in the event of a No Deal Brexit because of civil unrest!

    IMO it is more likely to be if there is a Deal or No Need it.

    But actually I think there is an underlying 'message' in the announcement - anyone else think it?
     
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  18. You are getting your Brexit in early then, as the EC are expecting it to happen at 23:00 hrs GMT on 29th March 2019. Midnight in Brussels.
     

  19. I was just reading that here - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/03/queen-to-be-evacuated-if-brexit-turns-ugly-reports

    However, let's just think about what they're saying, civil unrest and riots in the event of a 'no deal'....by whom exactly?

    The so called 'right wing' voters that want to leave the EU?

    The growing number of all types of voter who are more than accepting of leaving the EU and moving to WTO terms?

    OR are we talking about those lovely, thoughtful, educated remainer types so opposed to leaving the EU?
     
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  20. Sky news this morning is pushing the Nissan thing.
    Very OMG OMG OMG no current jobs affected
     
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