Good post TB. The only bit you missed was that the bailout bailed out the German and French banks who were up to their necks in junk status debt. Greece is in debtors prison for a very long time.
Warning - Definitely NSFW and some may find this offensive but this is how some of our most esteemed intellectuals are dealing with Brexit. https://twitter.com/vnbateman/status/1093182514691276800?s=21 You have been warned !
In creative writing you can do whatever the feck you like. Having said that, I am not interested missing full stops: your final point is incorrect. No idea what point 3 is about (Note the missing full stop) I say “shite” not shit, because I am Scottish and speak Scots when I want. I still seem to know more about the English language than some English people on here. Still, everyday is a a school day and as Liz pointed out, your use of “coin a phrase” in modern parlance, is acceptable. Such a shame Standards are allowed to slip due to poor education. Not you obviously, since English is not your mother tongue. It’s almost as if I, like many here, are still living in the days of Empire, clinging onto what I learnt at school 40 years ago, not realising the world around me had changed
I seem to recall posting such a statement several months ago to the same effect. Ireland must be pishing itself laughing. Opinion polls in the north are 60:40 in favour of unification. Not sure the feeling is reciprocated in Eire
This has got nothing to do with Brexit. What is your problem? Are you obsessed with Brexit. If your wife has the wrong type of orgasm, is that the fault of Brexit? How unPC of me- your wife or gay lover. It’s obvious what I am on about. Someone is suggesting that the BBC presents facts with a bias one way and I am pointing out that I have seen them presenting facts with a bias the other way. Everything you have written is true. I am not suggesting it’s not true but I am saying that the BBC has presented facts fraudulently. THE Fact isn’t that employment is at a record high, it’s one part of the employment picture. The full picture is that unemployment has also increased. Anyone who thinks I am a fan of the bbc needs to read my posts more slowly
Take back control It’s as if unelected bureaucrats know how to build and design stuff, and that these people hand down tablets of stone to the member states and expect them to get on with it. That’s obviously how it works. No, that’s not how it works. How it works is that the EU sets up Working Groups. Each working group is made up of experts with many years experience from each country. These experts then consult with representatives of the interested parties within each country through bodies like trade technical committees. Something, which I have done a lot of. And I can tell you, The UK got its way a lot of the time. Having worked for leading German and Belgian manufacturers and represented them in U.K. technical committees and then spoken with the directors who were working within the European Working Groups, we would usually have a bemused discussion at how the U.K. managed to degrade some of the technical standards to suit interests of the U.K. based companies. Think British Leyland versus Mercedes. Having said that, that only happened because our non product, design and measurement based standards were world class. We seemed to be “let off”. So all this stuff about having laws from Brussels foisted upon us by unelected European beaurocrats: a load of crap in my experience. They are formed by technicians who are experts in their field and the U.K. has the best of those, which is why, we formed most of the guidelines. It will be like going back decades. European standards have made life so much easier to trade and we are heading away from convergence and towards divergence. Under such circumstances we have no chance of a free trade deal as there will be no guarantees from the U.K. that our standards will remain aligned. The vote to leave signals the exact opposite Incidentally, European norms for my industry are just guides. The UKs professional body refers to the guide but will differ significantly when dealing with specific applications. In contrast, in Germany and the Netherlands, European Norma are automatically law and it gave those countries massive problems. They had to re write many of their more detailed design guides as a result If you want to know who interferes negatively with U.K. design guides, try the Tory party and it’s obsession with de regulation so that designers have more freedom to use their “professional judgement”. As opposed to say the professional judgement of the Building Research Establishment. The kind of judgement that resulted in Grenfell.
Well your experience seems very direct indeed. My thoughts are ;- wasn't Grenfell more to do with supplying goods to the councils money saving specification rather than industry self regulation? And I have an anecdote from 20 years ago, when I was talking to one of my customers in the automotive sector we supplied tooling to. His opinion then was that when say 27 countries joined the EU each country had its own "book" of regulation for car manufacture. Lets say 27 books 1 inch thick. Once they all became members of the EU they all had to sit down to create one book, however, as none on of the countries wanted to yield on their standards the EU ended up with one book 27 inches thick. (all dimensions are for illustration purposes and simplified). This new improved book then had to be implemented by the 27. TB
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Ahhhhhh, you got free holidays and lots of expenses from your EU playtime meetings - now it all makes sense British Leyland! How long ago was this ........................let it go
here is a several i can prove to be faulse straight of the bat which only took a matter of months to be found wanting. lead us dont leave us. devo max the only way to gaurante EU membership is to vote no.
Good morning all, good to see the debate is still raging on ! The problem with the internet in general, and forums in particular, is that it makes detecting sarcasm or in our particular conversation, outright wind-ups difficult. As an old flying club buddy who had far more experience than me in the hot seat once said to me 'Never assume, always check'. I do, however, speak four languages : Cockney, Bad French, SQL*Plus and Estuary English. Happy to be corrected in any of those when necessary.
