British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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    Is this like "Immigration has had no effect on wages, except the effect it's had on wages"? :laughing:
     
    #24501 Robarano, Feb 10, 2019
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  2. Argue away all you want fin but you cannot deny, one system for all on immigration can only be seen as equality and fairness in action?
     
  3. developing an immigration policy, (just one of many policies) that suits the needs of just one area within a four nation state can be called discriminatory.
     
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  4. What would it be called in an organisation of 28 countries that is largely built for the benefit of the biggest country and largely favours white northern europeans?
     
  5. What about one policy for 28 different counties.
     
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  6. says who? a country who was looking for handouts from the IMF to becoming the 5th wealthiest country on the planet? aye, ok noob.
    yip, Birdy, but with quite a bandwidth of options on how to construct and implement EU policies, and lets face it, in quite a small amount of areas.
     
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  7. Erm no, that wasn't an answer fin, that was an attempt to justify your own self interest as an snp supporter as usual when you are in the room. Lets bury this snp victimhood claim

    In many parts of England they are massively overcrowded, far too many people in far too small a footprint. Scotland on the other hand has lots of land with very few people in it. The answer would seem obvious, encourage the overcrowded areas to see as you often post, the land of milk and honey that is Scotland and everyones happy. Scotland gets the people to continue as they are with the ability to expand and overcrowding reduces in many places in England.

    However this is and has never been an immigration problem fin, not a tory government controlling Scotlands economy through migration but has ALWAYS BEEN, of the millions who have come across, very few in relative terms want to go to Scotland.

    No policy in the world can force them to go to Scotland and it's about time you started asking, why do migrants on the whole not want to come and live in the land of milk and honey you call Scotland, instead of it must be everyone else's fault that they do not want to go their in big numbers?

    You've had at least, a combined effort of the snp government and eu membership of 10 years and you still can't get enough people to go there, whose fault is that?
     
  8. self interest? another example of a total lack of self awareness.
     
  9. answer the question and the one before it please fin, you keep avoiding them because in the words of jack nicholson, you can't handle the truth

    One standard on immigration that treats candidates no matter where they come from as equal as the next person, is an equality system that the eu refuses to use as it has a two tier discriminatory system

    Scotlands need for migrants hides the fact that even those same migrants, would rather be in England than Scotland.

    Scotlands issue is NOT the U.K. limiting their workforce by applying equality to migration but Scotlands biggest problem is getting U.K., e.u. or the rest of the worlds people who want to migrate to the U.K. to choose Scotland over any other part of the U.K.

    Until the snp government in Scotland asks that awkward question of themselves, then they will continue to hide behind what they always have when they are at fault, it's the tories in westminsters fault.
     
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  10. answer the question and the one before it please fin, you keep avoiding them because in the words of jack nicholson, you can't handle the truth
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    ad hominem.
    as has been pointed out numerous times by numerous people, you dont get to dictate the answers. you might not like em, you might not be reading em. i certainly dont intend to waist to much time going over and over em.
     
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  11. We are currently members of the WTO but our status is as a members of the EU, which will of course change when we leave. Every developed country in the world is a member of the WTO but none of them, not one, trades under pure WTO rules.
    Be careful what you wish for!
     
  12. the EU single market, a negotiation between 28 countries and groups of party's within them in a PR Parliament.
    the UK single market.....
     
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  13. We will remain a wto member after we leave the eu.

    You keep saying this Every developed country in the world is a member of the WTO but none of them, not one, trades under pure WTO rules.

    And keep getting the reply wto AND fair trade, you just continually refuse to accept the answer is correct, funny old sausage
     
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  14. ANOTHER divert, keep on track fin. Why after 10 years of snp government and whilst in the eu at the same time, has Scotland been unable to attract the majority of the migrants who have come over? I'll give you a head start, it is NOTHING to do with the tories at westminster
     
  15. But Caroline Nokes is reported to have said ‘In addition, Scotland already has a separate Shortage Occupation List (SOL) and we will invite the Migration Advisory Committee to compile such a list for Northern Ireland and consider whether the composition of the SOL needs to be different for Wales.’

    So any discrimination stems from the different needs of the home nations.
     
  16. The one standard to ensure those migrants who apply to come and live in the U.K. are treated equally is a standard we will be having and is the fairest way to judge a persons application.

    Fin, once they have been given permission to come in, the individual and the individual only gets to decide which part of the U.K. they want to live in, not government, not the tories, nor you or me.
     
  17. did she? nice spin. as with all brexit related policies and pretty much all areas of uk governance, what is said is not actually whats delivered. hence the lack of trust in the uk Parliament. during the brexit campaign and confirmed after the result by the SoS of scotland, Snack Beard Mundell we would gain competence over areas of immigration.
    https://twitter.com/dr_philippaw/status/978951776245370880?lang=en
     
  18. snack beard. :D
     
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  19. What does fair trade mean exactly??
    Sounds incredibly vague to me.
    As I understand it, in the two years since Article 50 was activated, not one trade deal has been made by our government.
    Didn’t a proposed trade deal with Japan fall through last week.
    Not looking good...
     
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  20. We're not allowed to do trade deals until we're out.
     
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