British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. I'm surprised now :eek: I'm not surprised you couldn't answer my ever so simple question however :eyes:
     
  2. Fair question,
    in the top 5 only 2 are eu countries and from March, only 1 eu country, Germany
    In the top 10 after March, only 3 will be eu countries

    or in rough economics, two thirds of the richest economies are not in the eu

    https://www.focus-economics.com/blog/the-largest-economies-in-the-world
     
  3. You were talking about Murdoch or is the short term memory a problem for you these days
     
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  4. No, I wasn't talking about Murdoch.

    Are you OK?
     
  5. I have the answer for this, for a while Diane Abbot was on secondment from Labour to the eu economics department, around the time Greece's application and financial books went in
     
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  6. underwritten and fulled by tax. tax collected across the uk.

    no labpur was apparently ^roll eyes* blue labour mind..

    we experienced the same crash, yet, we survive on a partial refund of our tax take, we have been subsiding england (london) by many billions annually since records began. see lord Ashcroft for details, yet homelessness is down, crime at a 40 year low, the SNHS is out performing rUK and the attainment gap is closing. its all about choices.

    see lord Ashcroft.

    this forum has more than one. but they're getting easier to spot.
     
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  7. only 25% up here, but we also the only country with a trade surplice. with the EU and the rest of the world noob.
     
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  8. Not true.

    There's a "country" on a Trading Estate half-a-mile away from me that also has a trade surplus with the EU and the RotW.
    They're doing quite well.
     
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  9. Now, you say that fin, but it's widely recognised that what the snp claim to be theirs, the majority of it isn't, as it is revenue due to the united kingdom and not the snp government
     
  10. thats straight from the express isnt it?
    or did you type that out yourself? remember, we are coming from a v,high number where Glasgow was the most violent city in the EU in 2005. no SMP gov back then and the UK was supposed to be booming.
    crime including violent crime is at a 43year low under the SNP. so much so Scot Gov and Police scotland are teaching forces across London and the northern states of America how they have been achieving the reduction in crime. mostly by seeing, and treating it as a disease.
     
  11. did you learn that cleaning printers for the inland revenue?
     
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  12. in 2005 scotland was the poorest country with the most violent city in the western world. we where part of the union then. we also had a life expectancy compatible to the inhabitants of the concentration camps set up in Africa by the "British" during the Boar War. according to JRM. how ungrateful of us.
     
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  13. Is it worth pointing out as you mention 2005, that the Scottish devolved government has been in place since 1999?
     
  14. I learned it from you, finderman.

    You're teaching me an awful lot ... about all sorts of things : o )
     
  15. yes, and was run by a coalition of partys accountable to london. there is no SLAB/SCON/SLIB. check out wales after 20 years of labour.
     
  16. Not really.
    You could "point" finderman in the nose and he still wouldn't see it. I think he might be myopic : o )
     
  17. Ssshhh.

    No one tell him they are still accountable.
     
  18. I can only assume someone gave you wrong information on the tax revenues recieved.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/284298/total-united-kingdom-hmrc-tax-receipts/

    Of course the Conservatives despite recieving more in Tax revenues, and cutting expenditure massively, increased the actual National debt dramatically
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/281761/national-debt-of-the-united-kingdom-uk/


    So now that you know the revenue is higher, the actual debt has increased to almost triple, where is this "balance the buget" which justifies the deaths & hardship?
     
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  19. Can we leave the IndyRef2 stuff until it is called?

    Let's stick with the positives of Brexit

    I don't want to blow all my good material derived from the Exige/Noobs/Loz euro arguments just now.
     
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  20. Well that's good to know fin but there is still a question that seems to contradict. Despite getting more per person than any other nation in the U.K., the snp has constantly said westminster has starved Scotland of money and yet they did not get tax raising powers till last year I believe?

    So between 2005 (your date) when Scotland was on it's knee's (according to you) how do you account with claiming to have been starved of funds (you claim) since 2005 but tell the world that Scotland is now a financial powerhouse on it's own (you claim)?

    It would look like you are lying to the U.K. saying you are starved of cash or lying to the world that you are a financial powerhouse.

    Could I politely ask, which lie is the one that gets most people falling for it?
     
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