We have about 300 at work, none have gone back that I know of you have a very different idea about Brexit to me, in fact here's one now... she rides an S2R btw ……..
If that had been thee result, the logical response would have been 'clearly there is a lot of dissatisfaction with the EU and thinks need to change'. Taking us out of the EU with no deal from a 52 / 48 vote is the equivalent of remain winning by the same margin and saying that now we must join schengen and the euro. I am not wed to the EU, but a 52/48 vote to leave is not in my view a mandate to leave without a deal and play politics with peoples jobs. Since the even the govt cannot agree on the way to leave, let alone the Tory part or even parliament I suggest that they ask for a vote on what people really wanted.
if you can answer the more pressing question of, who is the uk? then it can be answered in quite some detail.
To answer 1a) We were one of the three principal decision makers in the EU and we could help shape it (alongside Germany and France), I think that has passed now I cannot see us being in that position in the future so the question is mute. 1b) The issue with the City of London is interesting, it was defacto the finance centre for the EU (As Singapore is for South East Asia), leaving the EU we have simply handed that position over. This does not mean that London will lose its global role, but its role in the EU has been seriously diminished, hence why banks are moving jobs and capital into the EU. 2) Leaving without a deal will be truly devastating for some UK, businesses, the exact extent of that is unknowable, nor how long any recovery will take (though Rees Mogg famously said 50 years !!) To me its like detonating a grenade in a room, its clear there will be damage, but not clear how much, but its not really for me, the person who advised not to detonate the grenade to try and establish what the damage will be, it should be for those who choose to do so to explain the benefits that the explosion will bring.
Doubt they will be in any position to lower taxes. The Govt are somehow going to have to find the money to repay the debts already due to be repaid in the coming months. Borrowing money is going to be more expensive and harder to find. If they lower Corpn tax then they will have to find the money from somewhere else.....and that will be you and me. At the last budget, the Govt said that is there was a no deal Brexit then the budget would have to be reviewed and replaced.
1a - I thought that was why Cameron called the referendum, he was trying to get the EU to change and they wouldn't ? 2 - Why do you think it is like letting off a grenade - this is the question, how will it be that bad ?
It is a British Overseas Territory which is within the EU with an MEP included in the South West England block. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43126719
Isn't that a bit extreme. To me its similar to the trade unions, they did a lot of good for workers rights etc and basically got power mad. If the EU had just been about free trade and free movement of people perhaps we wouldn't be in this position.
Letting off a grenade is eminently sensible,if one is blowing to the door off ones prison cell. And the EU is a prison for the low paid. We all KNOW what being in the EU means: for the vast majority of working class,it has caused suppression of wages,(oversupply of unskilled/low-skilled labour),loss of opportunity,(industry moved overseas to countries with even cheaper wage rates),shortage of affordable housing,(uncontrolled immigration),pressure on social services,(ditto),and a huge increase in the welfare bill,(more low skilled folks require housing benefit,immigrants and child support etc etc). Those who are not working class,who are in "safe",employment,ar able to afford a decent home in a nice safe and affluent area,will not be affected by any of the above,apart from getting their Amazon deliveries/childcare services/Pret-a-Manger snack/private healthcare/plumber at a lower cost than it would normally be. The Brexit division is,(Imho),predominantly,(but not completely),a battle between the middle/upper classes,(for whom EU membership has been a wonderful and enriching experience),and the working class majority who for the most part have suffered the negative consequences. I remember back in the late Sixties/early Seventies,politicians,entertainers and the media started to proclaim that the class system has been eradicated. That was a lie,which just happened to be told around the time we were taken in to the EC.And for decades the untruth was repeated...probably fooled some people,but not many that I knew. What has happened since the Referendum is that the middle/upper class/taxpayers teat suckers in all departments,have openly conspired against the predominantly working class Leave vote,in order to protect their cosy lives and keep the majority in their place at the bottom. Hatred for the working class has always existed,(even those that have plenty KNOW that without those who do the dull graft even the rich would starve),it's just that now it's out in the open,and no one feels any shame in displaying it.
During the campaigning and since the vote was won, the barrage of constant "you just want to return to colonial days" has often been thrown about, almost always by remainers and to be used alongside the other shutdowns of you are a brextard, racist, xenophobe, uneducated etc etc. For me, we have been a world power, a number of times back in the early days of ships and exploration, the rahj and then ww1 and 2 where we freed europe from itself. In so many ways we want to be a power in the world now and not a world power and can see where the eu are going. You have to remember, ignoring German goverments who have never been able to behave themselves, there are also two other colonial powers, the Dutch and the French. The French in Africa still very much act in colonial ways. The eu does not want to be a powerful member in the world, it wants to be a world power and certianly the U.K. has done that and seem it doesn't always end well so that direction is not for us The banks are moving and creating satellite offices in the eu to keep working in the eu, London will always be the financial powerhouse and can now be even greater without the red tape of the eu who was always seeking to undermine it in the hope central finance would move to Brussels Change always has victims, often change is needed because it created victims and change is needed. Often we quote business but I seem to remember of the many millions of business's that export to the eu, it turned out to be around only 6% of U.K. business's export to the eu. The companies who invested the heaviest were true believers in the eu project but not through a better life for the people but for their own bottom line, a choice any business makes and one of the risks You see damage, those who voted to leave see a potential to change. Since 2008 when again multi national business's brought us all down, big business and multi nationals have learned very little and gone back to normal. The vote to change that means enough people wanted what was normal, wanted it to be different normal. If anything comes from brexit that is for the first time in hundreds of years of political apathy, people voted in a way that reminded governments and business that people have a voice too and we can bring about change, whether they like it or not
