I saw a Labour MP on Sky this morning desperately wanting a vote to choose between 2 deals 1) the deal TM agrees and 2) the status quo deal. Interviewer (Adam Boulton), so you want a referendum with remain on the ballot. MP, No this is a choice between 2 deals. Interviewer, yes but one is to remain. MP, No we want to give people a choice between 2 deals Interviewer, but the status quo is to remain. I was cringing with how much this MP did not want to use the words referendum or to remain. Mealy mouthed twat. Anyway, Corbins stance is now out. TB
i thaught we covered this early one morning some weeks ago. there was no once in a generation agreement. but that will be the drugs for you. the majority of scots voted to leave the union, and the english did get to vote. they voted to remain part of the union by about 80%, as did EU nationals who where told by your MP's they would face deportation or worse.. they feel v,differently now. thanks for the invite into the conversation. tho chatting about fake news with you can and does get a lil tedious. and while i am here, here is a wee vid from one of yours that is now one of us
Leaving aside whether Leave or Remain is the best option for a moment. When negotiating you use any and all tactics to achieve your aims. Occasionally, there come a time when some options are no longer available due to time constraints. At that moment you have to decide whether continuing to push for a better deal will damage your cause. If the UK waits until ten days prior to leaving the EU to finalise a Deal, it may well be that other options will no longer be available. So AC will May: Push for an extension from the EU? Choose to offer the public a second referendum? Take a chance on a vote in the House which could take away all her control? Finally resign
Bloomberg report £GBP increasing in value at the prospect of a Brexit 2nd referendum & delay. Sources said that "it appears May is coming to her senses".
the facts are, and bearing in mind you and noob are sick of talking about the 10% north of the border.... the majority of scots voted YES, around 53%+ around 80% of non scots resident and registerd to vote up here, including EU nationals, and army personnel bassed up here. the main thrust of the No campagn was vote Yes, yer out the EU. vote yes lose yer uk pensions. vote yes lose yer currency. vote yes lose yer ecconomy. vote No, get devo max, the closest thing to fedaralisem possible in the uk. all bollox. 62% voted remain, if yer wanting some closure, the 10% are gonna need some consessions from the uk gov.
Just my thoughts, I wonder if you agree, Basically, project fear narrowly won in Scotland and they stayed part of the UK. Personally I think if the vote had been a narrow win for leave, Scotland would have left the UK, the difference being the politicians arguing to leave meant it ?
yip, there is a majority for indi at holyrood. there is no backstop issue we have a seperate Law, education and NHS systems and are fully convergent with EU regs already. everything thats required to run a country we already pay for, from defence to forigen policy, everything. but is mostly manadged, from london including any procurement, and the tax reciepts stay there. we have no deficit. just a share of uk debt racked up by tax desicions and the priorities of another country. its compleatly different to the brexit. only the bull from the uk gov is roughly comparible.
I think the biggest difference to brexit is the politicians. The ones arguing for brexit didn’t really want that I don’t think, not sure what their real motives were / are. At least you have politicians that seem (to me anyway) to be arguing for something they would actually do.
So May will push for her deal again on the basis that the ERG/ Leavers will support her as if it doesn't get a majority, a vote for No Deal will take place and could mean that option is ended. It might get enough votes? These will be followed by a vote for extension. If Mays Deal is voted out, followed by No Deal being voted out, then Brexit extension to May 23rd. she will resign.
Seems to be a bit of a common theme with referendums Be they Scottish or English If the politicians don’t get the answer they want They stir it up until they do aided and abetted by sheep
