"Status quo"! FFS! Words fail me and I normally have plenty of 'em! "More of the same" ... oh dear Goat ...
i dont do "news", but after watching a bit of the BBC last night and for a while this morning. not only can i understand why many dont know whats gonna happen. i can also see why many of the more vocal haven't got a clue whats been happening. warra crock. this gave me more insight, and a giggle. When Theresa May finally shuffles off this mortal coil, the autopsy will find “nothing has changed, nothing has changed” engraved upon her heart. Although it will have to be in tiny, tiny, writing. Today in Parliament however, the Prime Minister was trying to persuade MPs that everything had changed, when in fact all that had happened was a cosmetic exercise in trying to bring the Brextremists of the European Research Group and the DUP on board. It was a bit like trying to placate a ravenous zombie by offering to allow it to look at a photo of some gammon.
Everyone below? Cameron for calling the referendum in the first place and then running away? Johnson for throwing his weight behind Leave just for his own personal ends? Him and the other Vote Leave leaders for the lies on the bus and breaking the laws around funding? The leaders of Remain for running such a poor campaign? The electorate for voting Leave? The voters who didn't turn-out and thereby let Leave win? The Vote Leave leaders for running away from the challenge after they won? May for her poor strategy, calling and losing a GE, and getting into bed with the DUP? Corbin for his strategy (or lack of it!)? The ERG for their unwillingness to compromise in the interests of the country where opinion is split close to 50/50? Ditto the DUP? The Remainers in Parliament for not "getting on board" with Leave? The EU for negotiating so hard? Juncker, Verhofstadt and Tusk for being so likeable Macron for being Macron Trump...just because he's bound to get a shoeing at some point Tony Blair for many many many reasons, not least because he's a conniving self serving bastard
"Status quo"! FFS! Words fail me and I normally have plenty of 'em! aye, and they have very rarely remained consistent across this forum
Certainly not the electorate, they were misled from the get go. If this had been a general election the whole process would have been illegal, but as it was only a referendum so it didn’t really matter!
Under WTO rules the UK would have to make a decision for every class of product and service in every sector ... 1. should we have zero tariffs and have nice cheap prices for consumers but screw over UK businesses who will find it very difficult to compete with cheaper imports? or 2. should we protect UK businesses with tariffs and accept that UK consumers will pay higher prices? ... of course the answer is horses for courses ... so each class of product or service will have to be considered individually, and if a tariff is appropriate the level of tariff will have to be worked out. This is a massive challenge - even doing one sector would be hard enough but the mind boggles at doing all of them.
15. The unborn children who would have voted to remain had they not been unborn and were being oppressed by that nasty Nigel Farage. 16. The unborn children of the unborn children who would of certainly voted to remain because they had been brought up by their parents to believe that as their unborn parents were unable to vote in the referendum due to no fault of their own it is now family policy to vote remain.
You should try SKY news I sometimes listen to BBC radio on my hour drive to work, generally I then spend some time later trying to find out if what they said is true or not.
17. the people of the uk and the UK gov would recognize the closeness of the result and that two of the four countries voted remain. less than two years after insisting yada yada yada and would seek to find a compromise position.
Oh I know that, but as it stands the statement is 87% of goods will attract zero tariffs and the remaining 13% of goods tariffs will apply to cars (not parts), beef, poultry, lamb and some textiles...amongst others I assume. There will be winners and losers in this, that's quite obvious, but it's not as negative as many would initially perceive in my opinion. It's most certainly not the end of the world, or a catalyst for the downward spiral of quality control or quality acceptance in the UK. Given reasonable consideration it's very sensible to remove tariffs in the interim
What I did find interesting is that for the first time in the last 3 years BBC radio was, this morning, having half sensible conversations about how to go about a no-deal brexit. They've spent the last 3 years adding 'which no one wants' after every no-deal mention.
I wonder if there is a correlation between believing that the overwhelming majority of economists and politicians are wrong about No Deal and believing that the overwhelming majority of scientists are wrong about Climate Change ?
That 13/87 statement for products is based upon a totally inadequate cursory assessment. The one thing we can be sure of is that it is wrong. Moreover it doesn't take any account of services at all, and the UK economy is much more dependant on these than products. A proper assessment and ongoing management of what tariffs should be established for each individual sector will be all but impossible in practical terms ... the Gov't would have to dramatically increase the size and hence cost of the Civil Service rather than dramatically reduce it which is what it has been doing for the last 10 years.
Maybe the difference is the crystal ball ? The remainers one only sees bad things. The leavers one only sees good things.
Yes I think it could be very important as it could lead to changes at the top of the EU and a change in the project's direction. Under these circumstances, if we are in a trade negotiation with the EU or Article 50 has been delayed; there may be a more pragmatic mindset in place?
I wonder why Glid thinks Remain should be an option in a second referendum. Is it because he doesn't believe in democracy or does he hold the belief he lives in the UK and not in Switzerland?
