British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Could be problematic if there is a GE. Some might say there was a vote a couple of years ago, so that result should stand and no more votes should be held.
     
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  2. I'm sure some will but if Parliament cannot reach a consensus then such options will inevitably have to come into play.
     
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  3. The fixed term act, The Act specifies that early elections can be held only:

    • if a motion for an early general election is agreed either by at least two-thirds of the whole House or without division; or
    • if a motion of no confidence is passed and no alternative government is confirmed by the Commons within 14 days.
    After the election on 8 June, the next general election is scheduled to take place on 5 May 2022.
     
  4. They may want to wait a while for the next General Election to allow the plebs to forget they’ve been ignored.
     
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  5. Italian job!
    Italy Veto.jpg
     
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  6. Some of them are funny :)
     
  7. I wouldn’t get too upset about it, Alan, if I were you. That vote means diddly squat. All it means is that Parliament does like the idea of leaving without a deal. But it also doesn’t like the deal or not leaving, a bit like a kid that won’t eat its potatoes or its greens or its carrots.

    It doesn’t really matter what it likes because you’re leaving in a fortnight’s time so you can sleep tight.
     
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  8. I don’t like to think of Noobie as some infantile bedwetter. I prefer to think of him as a man of substance and erudition. But then there’s his avatar and... well... it’s difficult.
     
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  9. You’re wrong but I’ll explain below.
     
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  10. Or not?
     
  11. Far better.
     
  12. Give us a chance. Haven’t quite finished reading to the end. I was watching Liverpool- Bayern.
     
  13. Still waiting.......?
     
  14. I suppose someone has to?
     
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  15. Leaving on the 29th is very unlikely unless the ERG change tack and vote for the shite May Deal - which will mean the UK can never leave anyway!
     
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  16. Here you go:
    From Wikipedia:
    “The rope-a-dope is a boxing fighting stylecommonly associated with Muhammad Ali in his 1974 Rumble in the Jungle match against George Foreman.

    In many competitive situations, rope-a-dope is used to describe strategies in which one contender lets their opponent fatigue themself by drawing non-injuring offensive actions. This then gives the contender an advantage towards the end of the competition or before, as the opponent becomes tired, allowing the contender to execute devastating offensive maneuvers and thereby win.”

    Theresa May is employing the Ali strategy. A load of meaningless votes wearing out her opposition. But the clock is ticking. Having established that no one can agree about anything, she will, at the 11th hour, resubmit her deal and it will get through Parliament because the alternative will be no deal and that, for MPs at any rate, is worse.

    Her deal doesn’t have to be a good deal, it just has to be the only deal, which it is. The final vote will be the sucker punch. May will have achieved a soft Brexit which is what she wants and on balance the closest reflection of the referendum result.

    There won’t be an extension to Article 50 because it does nothing for the rope-a-dope strategy and the EU won’t agree to it anyway - May will probably have told them what her strategy is to get the deal done.
     
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  17. You might be right. Your scenario does depend on May being able to dictate the pace. With 13 ministers breaking the 3 line whip and other MPs doing the same, Mays opposition is not wearing out, its getting stronger... It could also have a strategy of its own.
     
  18. Hey, Real Glidd is back! Yay! Welcome back!

    Very relieved, as Fake Glidd was a bit of a spunktrumpet. Funny though : o )
     
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  19. I slept well thanks, knowing you are happy to trust parliament.
     
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