British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. the piece wasn't about JRM more about some making a profit by allowing (in control of) multinationals to have more say in our country and tax polices after brexit. exactly what you have been saying. but in my and many others minds, yer pointing the finger in the wrong direction.
     
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  2. I looked at the website Finm’s article was taken from. I also looked them up on Wikipedia to get an idea of their bona fides.

    This whole Brexit thing is now starting to make perfect sense. I get what’s going on. “The People” think they voted for one thing - to get rid of the evil EU project. They are going to find they end up with another thing - the vassal US state project.

    In any case, why does Liam Fox get a free pass? Only a few years ago his besie mate was living with him at taxpayers’ expense in a grace and favour apartment in Admiralty Arch and travelling the world with him, also at taxpayers’ expense and sitting in on official meetings with him. This is the guy the country ‘s future prosperity is being entrusted to. Short memories. And now it transpires he’s conniving with Neocons in the US.

    It’s not just that the politicians are a shower of shit. Some of them are far more sinister.
     
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  3. Unless you like writing to yourself 'cause no one reads them.
     
  4. Fox was an expenses scammer the first time he was sacked, the Defense contract sacking came later!
     
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  5. Yep, I have tried to say this. They are paving the way for the US and a US style system. Pay for health, less workers rights, corporations 1st, fek the people. But folks cant see it.

    Whilst the EU is flawed, what we have IS better than the US system.
     
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  6. Hurrah, at last someone’s seen what’s happening here.

    The “I’m alright Jack” mentality is alive and well.
     
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  8. Your version of sense is off kilter, The U.K.'s democratic peoples majority voted to leave the eu project. Not to ban it, stop others from wanting it if they wish, or to "get rid of" but we simply said "it's not for us, we are leaving using agreed constitutional and legal terms agreed by all 28 of it's own members.

    If Mays deal is agreed, then yes, a deal far worse than we currently have, which does not bode well for the future relationship negotiations

    One of the biggest remainers, Hilary Benn at the instructions of his Dad Tony Benn,, the great Labour socialist, used tax reduction procedures on their £5 million estate . Even the most socialist of socialists change their guild when it comes to their own money

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance...-how-it-works-and-how-you-can-use-it-too.html

    at the same time whilst mentioning fox and his abuse of the system, you cannot not include
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uk...nses-without-proof-of-how-money-is-spent.html

    This would not be allowed in the U.K. and it's surprising when remainers say, they know what they have voted for

    What brexit has done is make people look at their own politicians and look a bit closer as to whom exactly they represent, 2022 will be an interesting general election year

    Would agree
     
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  9. What’s the difference between May saying we shouldn’t have another referendum and having another vote on the WA ?

    (She did say no to another referendum didn’t she ?)
     
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  10. We know what they've done (after one and a half thousand pages, if we didn't know that...). The point being made is that it's out of the frying pan and into the fire and the fire is going to be a lot worse for almost everyone. My version of sense is A1, thanks.

    If May's deal is agreed, although it is worse than what we have already, it may just save us from the worst excesses of the no-deal Brexit which will drive us straight into the arms of the good ol' US of A. But as your support of Trump has demonstrated, that's pretty much what you want, isn't it?



    A total red herring. Might have had some relevance on the tax thread. Might.


    Another red herring. Fox is relevant because he is the bloke with the sinister ties to the US Neocons and the bloke who is supposedly organising the trade treaties. The fact that he's already been sacked twice for impropriety doesn't make him my go-to choice for filling the job he's in. But that's somewhat indicative of the Tory party, it would appear.

    MEPs fiddle their expenses too? You don't say.
    Now say something to surprise me.

    "May you live in interesting times."

    Good on ya. Even if we probably aren't thinking of the same people.
     
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  11. If it relied on remainers building from that clean slate then yes I would agree, I don't know how they get out of bed in the morning without their doom and gloom boost for the day.

    Ah, you've fallen for the chlorinated chicken trap, this in itself is a red herring. It continually aims a miss direct that the U.S. will be the only country we will be trading with once out of the eu. "Never mind about the other 160 countries, you're not supposed to see those" say the anti americans

    This red herring is often of flumoxing ability when we are told by the very same people "the U.S. only want the U.K. because we offer the U.S. a way into the eu" and then the next minute, the U.S. want to take over the U.K.. Sure the U.S. will be able to do what remainers will not, a U.K. with a good future in front of it, so will the other 160 countries as well as the majority of the people do also who voted

    Hardly, I was pointing out in contradiction to your only reference that many do and from all sides, you just seem selective when you do yours :D

    Rtaher proving my point you did agree but were just one sided on your example:upyeah:

    I can live with that
     
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  12. If it relied on remainers building from that clean slate then yes I would agree, I don't know how they get out of bed in the morning without their doom and gloom boost for the day. A good business potential there though, for remainers, a lack of power drink guaranteed to say all day, O woe is me. Perhaps we could call it, remaindoom, it gives you fuck all but the miseries :D

    Ah, you've fallen for the chlorinated chicken trap, this in itself is a red herring. It continually aims a miss direct that the U.S. will be the only country we will be trading with once out of the eu. "Never mind about the other 160 countries, you're not supposed to see those" say the anti americans

    This red herring is often of flumoxing ability when we are told by the very same people "the U.S. only want the U.K. because we offer the U.S. a way into the eu" and then the next minute, the U.S. want to take over the U.K..

    Sure the U.S. can see what remainers will not, even the Norwegians can, a U.K. with a good future in front of it, so will the other 160 countries as well as the majority of the people do also who voted

    Hardly, I was pointing out in contradiction to your reference and suggested that many do and from all sides, you just seem selective when you do yours :D

    Rather proving my point you did agree with but were just one sided on your example:upyeah:

    I can live with that
     
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  13. Are you saying Col Cathcart is wrong?

    He has his own bombing wing, you know, I'd be careful IIWY.
     
  14. Lets face it if we were left with two sticks to rub together we'd just dust our self's off and get on with building our new future yes maybe we'd stumble here and there but that's life on-wards and upwards and lets not listen to all the negative shit !!
     
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  15. Oh how I long for the days when I only had two sticks to rub together...
     
  16. A lot better than one stick - pessimist :rolleyes:
     
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  17. A stick and a hoop may be the answer to post Brexit transportation :)
     
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  18. Ah, and optimist, a hoop...WOW! - much better outlook :):upyeah:
     
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