British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. I hope the EU tell Theresa May and our politicians to FUCK OFF wanting a time extension let's get out the corrupt old boys club and sort the crap out after the 29th March
    We could use the £39 billion divorce payment to help support industry and the economy till the dust settles
     
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  2. We are now in the completely insane situation where the UK is being threatened by Donald Tusk with "No Deal Brexit" if it doesn't agree the EU's offer.

    Clinical, measurable lunacy is at work here. It's like that scene in Blazing Saddles where the Sheriff threatens to blow his own head off if the townsfolk don't back off.

    Literally shaking my head in amazement.
     
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  3. Plenty of time for a surprise or two yet.
     
  4. So just for remainers who say the eu is NOT controlling the vote and getting us to keep voting till they get the result the eu wants.

    Tusks says extension maybe allowed only if the eu gets the deal they asked May to put forward AND, the Irish Prime minister has just said he understands May is going to speak to the British people this evening.

    No honestly, the eu are controlling nothing :joy:
     
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  5. They don’t have to do anything.

    What right do we have to extend? The answer is “none”

    Article 50 was written by a Brit

    We are leaving without a deal on 29/3 because as of now we are not meeting the criteria laid down by the EU.

    Fundamental rule of negotiation- if you are going to give something you must always ask for something
     
  6. Is now a good time to remind everyone that if we default on our legal obligations our credit rating will be trash
     
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  7. EARTH TO LOZ- THEY DONT CARE!!
     
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  8. The last part of that article probably has more to do with the event of sending things that were little more than cap bombs

    Police in Northern Ireland and Ireland have said that a return to a hard border on the island after Brexit could result in an increase in attacks by militant groups.

    The timing 6 days before the second meaningful vote and on mainland U.K. can't be ignored. Convenient for the Republic given it has the most to lose in a no deal
     
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  9. May is an idiot.

    She keeps banging on about how a second referendum would betray democracy.

    By not leaving with a deal on 29/3 she is doing that very thing.
     
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  10. "They"?

    You sound like a conspiracy theorist!
     
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  11. Yeah, because IRA violence has always been an ethereal concept.....
     
  12. Are you saying ira violence has never been timed for maximum effect?
     
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  13. I believe May is more "crazy like a fox", than idiot. I believe she has employed a strategy, fed to her by advisors, for the past two and a half years.

    It remains (heh) to be seen whether her strategy will pay off. If is no little thing to subvert a democracy as old and established as the UK's and it's possible that no amount of shenanigans that Remain could try would have worked to over-turn a democratic decision on the scale of the Brexit vote.

    I am convinced that May's actions were deliberate, thought through and that she expected them to work.
     
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  14. Some folk struggle with the concept that "both things can be true".

    You see evidence of this on Twitter every day of the week.
     
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  15. Legal obligations certainly don't add up to £39 billions. My earlier thoughts:
    Getting back to the £39 billions that the EU insists the UK must pay, even without a deal: Just for starters, there are 2 years transition factored into that sum so lets take off say, £18 billions. There is also £7 billions in profit from our investment in the European Investment Bank. The EU's treatment of the UK over Galileo makes my blood boil and they should repay our £1.4 billion investment that we will now have no benefit from.
    So, lets maybe make that £12.6 billions for a new starting point of our actual final commitments. Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed, I think Barnier has said a few times, so be it!
     
  16. An interesting disorderly Brexit prediction: I thought we'd all starve to death!

    BMW continues to expect an orderly Brexit and said operational disruptions from a disorderly Brexit would be likely to normalize after four to six weeks.

    “If tariffs are in the range of zero and 5 percent, the business case would not dramatically change,” BMW production chief Oliver Zipse said, referring to the group’s production network and exports of Mini vehicles from Oxford in England to the European Union.

    I'll take that!
     
  17. She's due to speak to the nation about 8.15 tonight.

    I've got, explaining what she is doing and hoping we fall for it or second vote. Anyone else got a guess?
     
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