Class is in session.. Weve discussed religion, ghosts and UFo's, so lets talk about some more cobblers..astrology... Sadly astrology books (pseudo science) outnumber astronomy (real science) books by about 10-1...probably something to do with the human need to attach reason and meaning to the mundane...unsurprisingly, the more religious cultures have more and more superstitions, tarot cards, readings, myths and nonsense of this sort... Rather arrogantly in my view, humans thought (some still do), that the Universe was created just with them in mind..Ptolemy invented astrology in the 2nd century, and it hasnt moved on since..Unfortunately, in Ptolemy's day, not all the planets were discovered..far from it...so its BS from the get go...secondly, because the earth wobbles on its axis around the sun, the position of the planets is now 20 degrees out...big deal?? you bet...because that means that the position of the planets relative to the sun are out by one..so, if you are born a capricorn, you a really a sagittarius..in another 1000 years, you'll be a scorpio..same birthday, same bullshit, different year.. Ptolemy thought it had some meaning because in previous years crops failed, or there was a war etc..his idea was that we could now make predicitions and pigeon hole personality traits based on this bollox... no one knew that we lived on a tiny planet, orbiting an insignificant red dwarf star on the edge of an arm of a rather ordinary, common spiral galaxy...but hey..they didnt know where babies came from, so we've got to cut them a bit of slack right? Read any 2 newspapers printed on the same day and all of the horoscopes will be contradictory...its just a bit of fun i hear you say?...well, some poor sods actually base important decisions on this nonsense..whether to have a baby, marry, move house, ask for that promotion.. as if the planets give a crap about that?? misguided, juvenile and arrogant are 3 words that spring to mind..or just plain stupid. Astrology stifles real science, a thirst for genuine knowledge and understanding, allows charlatans to make money ripping off the gullible, and its holds back human progress..it makes a mockery of the cosmos and rational thought... Horoscopes dont even make predictions..they offer vague Barnum statements like, "compromise will ease tension", "Demand more of yourself"....this applies to everyone. In numerous experiments, people (believers) have had readings, or taken personality profiles run through computers and been given their results...on a scale of 1 to 5 the vast majority rate the accuracy as a 4 (about 75%), then next most popular result is a 5 (about 15%)...the least popular is a rating of 1, (usually about 2%).. The subjects are then told to swap their readings and guess what?? They find that they've all been given the same reading!! Check it out on the internet..this is a very experiment and the results are always the same..in fact Derren Brown even did it on one his shows..Similar experiments have been done when they deliberately give subjects the wrong horoscope....guess what? The results are the same...If it had any validity they would be entirely incorrect..Instead the results are exactly as predicted when you know youre dealing with unfounded, made up rubbish.. Why dont twins live the same lives? Some die young, accidents, disease....yet were born under the same star sign at the same moment...fkn boswelox... Why dont 1/12th of people disagree when you read them the wrong horoscope?? If you believe any of this then its time to take a look at the facts, grow up and... Think freely and be free...
When Kelvin McKenzie was the editor of The Sun he once sacked the writer of the astrology column. McKenzie's firing letter began, "As you will no doubt have foreseen..."
officially its classed as a GV2 yellow dwarf, it is enlarging into a red dwarf (as it runs out of fuel), like the majority of stars in the milky way.... anyway....back to truthology....
A barbaric,, pseudo-scientific, personality model used to explain away a person's neuroticism by measuring the trajectory of big rocks in the sky. Urban Dictionary
Ha! Many years ago I had (I'm ashamed to say) the misfortune of working for a large publishing house producing various rags on a daily and weekly basis. Amongst my duties were the putting to bed of the paper, which included pasting up the horoscopes prior to shooting. Out of sheer boredom I used to read these for amusement purposes, only to realise that after a certain amount of time the author was repeating his own work under different signs. Plagiairising his own work at will. Sometimes when they weren't available! I used to cut and paste different headers and just mix them up. Hey, if it's good enough for the goose...As you say, it's a complete load of cobblersbollocks. Apparently Ronald Reagan wouldn't make a decision until he'd read his 'stars'. Seriously! I don't know whether I'm right in saying that since the finding of Pluto (or some other out of reach until only recently discovered planet) there are in fact 13-14 ... signs. Allegedly. Ophiuchus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This happens to fall right in conjunction with uranus which is in alignment with the 3rd dimension of omni meaning that if i don't stop soon I'm going to waste more time just spouting bollocks. Simply put, about the same time as my birthday. So I'm not a sagittarian as I had been for decades, but an ophiuchus-ian-ussss!! Which means, yes you guessed it, you're not what you think you are either AN ACCURATE 2013 HOROSCOPE This is the real deal. Try ignoring it, and the first thing you’ll notice is having a horrible day starting tomorrow morning … and it only gets worse from there. ARIES - The Aggressive (March 21 to April 19) Outgoing. Lovable. Spontaneous. Not one to mess with. Funny… Excellent kisser. EXTREMELY adorable. Loves relationships, and family is very important to an Aries. Aries are known for being generous and giving. Addictive. Loud. Always has the need to be ‘Right’. Aries will argue to prove their point for hours and hours. Aries are some of the most wonderful people in the world. 16 years of bad luck if you do not forward. TAURUS - The Tramp (April 20 to May 20) Aggressive. Loves being in long relationships. Likes to give a good fight. Fight for what they want. Can be annoying at times, but for the love of attention. Extremely outgoing. Loves to help people in times of need. Good kisser. Good personality. Stubborn. A caring person. They can be self-centred and if they want something they will do anything to get it. They love to sleep and can be lazy. One of a kind. Not one to mess with. Are the most attractive people on earth! 15 years of bad luck if you do not forward. GEMINI - The Twin (May 21 to June 20) Nice. Love is one of a kind. Great listeners. Very good at confusing people. Lover not a fighter, but will still knock you out. Geminis will not take any crap from anyone. Geminis like to tell people what they should do and get offended easily. They are great at losing things and are forgetful. Geminis can be very sarcastic and childish at times and are very nosey. Trustworthy. Always happy. VERY Loud. Talkative. Outgoing. VERY FORGIVING. Loves to make out. Has a beautiful smile. Generous. Strong. THE MOST IRRESISTIBLE. 9 years of bad luck if you do not forward. CANCER - The Beauty (June 21 to July 22) MOST AMAZING KISSER. Very high appeal. A Cancer’s love is one of a kind… Very romantic. Most caring person you will ever meet in your life. Entirely creative person, most are artists and insane, respectfully speaking. They perfected sex and do it often. Extremely random. An ultimate freak. Extremely funny and is usually the life of the party. Most Cancers will take you under their wing and into their hearts where you will remain forever. Cancers make love with a passion beyond compare. Spontaneous. Not a fighter, but will kick your ass good if it comes down to it. Someone you should hold on to! 12 years of bad luck if you do not forward. LEO - The Lion (July 23 to August 22) Great talker. Attractive and passionate. Laid back. Usually happy but when unhappy tend to be grouchy and childish. A Leo’s problem becomes everyone’s problem. Most Leos are very predictable and tend to be monotonous. Knows how to have fun. Is really good at almost anything. Great kisser. Very predictable. Outgoing. Down to earth. Addictive. Attractive. Loud. Loves being in long relationships. Talkative. Not one to mess with. Rare to find. Good when found. 7 years of bad luck if you do not forward. VIRGO - The One that Waits (August 23 to September 22) Dominant in relationships. Someone loves them right now. Always wants the last word. Caring. Smart. Loud. Loyal. Easy to talk to. Everything you ever wanted. Easy to please. A pushover. Loves to gamble and take chances. Needs to have the last say in everything. They think they know everything and usually do. Respectful to others but you will quickly lose their respect if you do something untrustworthy towards them and never regain respect. They do not forgive and never forget. The one and only. 7 years of bad luck if you do not forward. LIBRA - The Lame One (September 23 to October 22) Nice to everyone they meet. Their love is one of a kind. Silly, funny and sweet. Have own unique appeal. Most caring person you will ever meet! However, not the kind of person you want to mess with… you might end up crying. Libras can cause as much havoc as they can prevent. Faithful friends to the end. Can hold a grudge for years. Libras are someone you want on your side. Usually great at sports and are extreme sports fanatics. Very creative. A hopeless romantic. 9 years of bad luck if you do not forward. SCORPIO - The Addict (October 23 to November 21) EXTREMELY adorable. Loves to joke. Very good sense of humour. Will try almost anything once. Loves to be pampered. Energetic. Predictable. GREAT kisser. Always get what they want. Attractive. Loves being in long relationships. Talkative. Loves to party but at times to the extreme. Loves the smell and feel of money and is good at making it but just as good at spending it! Very protective over loved ones. HARD workers. Can be a good friend but if is disrespected by a friend, the friendship will end. Romantic. Caring. 4 years of bad Luck if you do not forward. SAGITTARIUS - The Promiscuous One (November 22 to December 21) Spontaneous. High appeal. Rare to find. Great when found. Loves being in long relationships. So much love to give. A loner most of the time. Loses patience easily and will not take crap. If in a bad mood stay FAR away. Gets offended easily and remembers the offence forever. Loves deeply but at times will not show it, feels it is a sign of weakness. Has many fears but will not show it. VERY private person. Defends loved ones with all their abilities. Can be childish often. Not one to mess with. Very pretty. Very romantic. Nice to everyone they meet. Their Love is one of a kind. Silly, fun and sweet. Have own unique appeal. Most caring person you will ever meet! Amazing in bed!!! Not the kind of person you want to mess with- you might end up crying. 4 years of bad luck if you do not forward. CAPRICORN - The Passionate Lover (December 22 to January 19) Love to bust. Nice. Sassy. Intelligent. Sexy. Grouchy at times and annoying to some. Lazy and love to take it easy, but when they find a job or something they like to do they put their all into it. Proud, understanding and sweet. Irresistible. Loves being in long relationships. Great talker. Always gets what he or she wants. Cool. Loves to win against other signs in sports, especially Gemini’s. Likes to cook but would rather go out To eat at good restaurants. Extremely fun. Loves to joke. Smart. 24 years of bad luck if you do not forward. AQUARIUS - Does It in the Water (January 20 to February 18) Trustworthy. Attractive. Great kisser. One of a kind. Loves being in long-term relationships. Tries hard. Will take on any project. Proud of themselves in whatever they do. Messy and unorganized. Procrastinators. Great lovers, when they’re not sleeping. Extreme thinkers. Loves their pets usually more than their family. Can be VERY irritating to others when they try to explain or tell a story. Unpredictable. Will exceed your expectations. Not a fighter, but will knock your lights out. 2 years of bad luck if you do not forward. PISCES - The Partner for Life (February 19 to March 20) Caring and kind. Smart. Likes to be the centre of attention. Very organized. High appeal to opposite sex. Likes to have the last word. Good to find, but hard to keep. Passionate, wonderful lovers. Fun to be around. Too trusting at times and gets hurt easily. VERY caring. They always try to do the right thing and sometimes get the short end of the stick. They sometimes get used by others and get hurt because of their trusting. Extremely weird but in a good way. Good sense of humour!!! Thoughtful. Loves to joke. Very popular. Silly, fun and sweet. Good friend to others but needs to be choosy on who they allow their friends to be. 5 years of bad luck if you do not forward. It's true, honestly ....
here we go , just checked mine out - it was on the internet so must be true Compatibilities The Virgo/Snake's love picture is a tiny bit smudgy. You see, Snakes tend to slither in and out of a variety of love affairs throughtout their lives. Virgos are rather more constant, yet they are sensuous as well. The tendency is toward slip-sliding away. Virgo/Snake makes the transition from passion to camaraderie smoothly. He remains friends with his "exes." You are turned on by Oxen and Roosters. If I were you I would stick with those born in Taurus, Scorpio and Capricorn, Don't shed your skin over Gemini, Sagittarius or Pisces/Tigers. Take no for an answer from a Gemini/Monkey, too. Whatever you do, don't get tangled up in a plot to marry a Pig. It could be detrimental to your health.
funny you mention Ophiuchus, this was going to be my following salvo...i watched an interesting video of Neil DeGrasse Tyson, the Cosmologist supremo addressing an audience of scholars and he mentions this curious anomaly....essentially saying that its all a load of old cobblers... i welcome you beating me to the post on that one...i was hoping we'd get some people sticking up for astrology, seeing as ive got a pile of ammo here going to waste..oh well....i might as well go and get a life now...or an afterlife...
Up until a few years ago, I thought that there was something in astrology. Not the daily paper variety, but the characterisation according to people's signs. It just seemed to work, for no apparent reason. So I was quite clued up on star signs, moons, and ascendants. But I couldn't see any reason why it should work, and plenty why it shouldn't. I devised my own experiment (which I failed to carry out): it is said that Aries are a pugilistic sign, and that Pisceans love the water and swimming. So I figured that if you trotted down to your local boxing or swimming clubs, you would find that Arians and Pisceans over-index respectively in the different clubs. No one has ever bothered to do this. But I saved myself the trouble by reading up about astrology on the net and came across the "identical profile being handed to everyone" experiment described above. It is obvious that the whole thing is indeed confirmation bias and that the "discipline" is a load of baloney. On a more interesting note, I am reading Stephen Hawking's The Grand Design. Now if you want to read something really freaky and amazing, read that. Astrology has got nothing on quantum physics when it comes to being bizarre. I always thought that Massive Vector Boson would be a great name for a band.
Some of the critical reception to Hawking and Mlodinow's The Grand Design was less than flattering and on the face of it, fairly damning. I'd particularly like to see whether I can reject, or have to agree with, this sort of thing: Gerald Schroeder in "The Big Bang Creation: God or the Laws of Nature explains that "The Grand Design breaks the news, bitter to some, that … to create a universe from absolute nothing God is not necessary. All that is needed are the laws of nature. … [That is,] there can have been a big bang creation without the help of God, provided the laws of nature pre-date the universe. Our concept of time begins with the creation of the universe. Therefore if the laws of nature created the universe, these laws must have existed prior to time; that is the laws of nature would be outside of time. What we have then is totally non-physical laws, outside of time, creating a universe. Now that description might sound somewhat familiar. Very much like the biblical concept of God: not physical, outside of time, able to create a universe." I guess I'll have to read a copy of it to make up my mind ... Disclaimer: I am not a Creationist, I just like to make sure my fellow followers of the scientific method aren't over-reaching themselves :wink:
you need to read the book Loz..its great..hawking also mentions that time came into being at the big bang, so there was no dimension as 'time' before this.
funkyrimpler, you are right, lots of people, including myself, make important decisions based on the science of astrology. Every day, I religiously read the horoscopes, particularly those of my star sign, which is Virgo. It was Virgo when I was born, and still is Virgo, so I don't know what previous posters mean when they say star signs change. However, I do wonder why I am still a Virgo when I am no longer a virgin, but I'm sure there must be a good explanation. The amazing thing about astrology is that the predictions always come true, for me and for all of my friends. I don't know how the astrologers manage this, i suppose this is why they are qualified experts and I am just someone who reads an follows their advice. Anyway, I've got an appointment now with Marlene, one of Mystic Meg's psychics. I wanted Lola, but she is already in a reading.
Never really understood how something, the universe, can be created from nothing...empty matter. Lots of technical long words etc doesn't help explain it. I've read them. had it explained to me. Last time I looked, the laws of physics, chemistry whatever would not allow something to be created from tin air unless it was a by product of something else. And facts are only todays facts. At some point the fact was the world was flat. Just because you cant prove it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You simply haven't found the appropriate test yet. on this, I am undecided as to the intelligent design theory. But astrology is a bunch of bollocks, just like those who claim to contact the dead.
I'm sorry, but you are wrong. The dead are dead and in the past, the science of astrology is all about the future, so it is not like contacting the dead. I would challenge anyone to quote a reading from a qualified astrologer that did not correctly predict something relevant to them. To do this properly, we should actually quote tomorrows readings and then see how accurate they were on Wednesday. I am confident we will be able to verify the accuracy of the science of astrology in this way. It really annoys me when people pooh pooh astrology, without really understanding what it is really about.
Nope, you're wrong. My future is determined by a number of factors, lifestyle, choices, genetics, therefore mostly what I do, not what the stars lining up says I will do. I find it harder to dispute the existence of God than whether astrology has any real validity. My inlaws are big into ts stuff, a semi famous medium or two in their familyhistory and a lot of tarroy card etc readers. All the same. Sure they all believe they have some special gift, and its not proved they have. Obviously my opinion ;-)
You are entitled to your opinion, even though it is wrong. If you look closely at astrology and the daily readings, it absolutely covers areas including lifestyle, choices, genetics and so forth. If you cannot see that, please seek advice from a professional astrologer who will be able to enlighten you.
I only go out when the sun is in alinement with Pluto .. It is a New moon and Scorpio is rising. Even though we do not believe ..... What are we ??? I'm Pisces ... A sensitive emotional romantic , nightmare pain in the arse
