British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. OK technically correct. But that's a greater minority than voted to Remain ;)
    I do think the number of Leavers who would just vote Remain as it's so difficult is roughly balanced by those Remainers who see the EU in a new light and would now vote Leave.
     
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  2. Why are you asking questions without authorisation?

    I said chlorine. WTF is "Noobie"?

    You are stating useless facts.

    Ballots are determined with reference to voters, not populations. You may as well state that no pine martens voted for Leave, you'd be making just as valid a point as with you original one.

    Percentage of voters. Repeat after me:

    Percentage of voters.
     
  3. That's the flannel part before the elction, I was asking how you would actually decide the stay or leave
     
  4. Which we both know is pants and rather a fib. The snp were sp convinced they were going to win but as a "lets have another go if we lose insurance, they put in the unless something changes, then we can go indi 2"

    That was never about the people, that was always an insurance for the snp, who lost, the people voted to stay and the snp have ignored that since 2014. For the people my arse, for the snp would be more correct.
     
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  5. Poor old 749er, has become so obsessed with me that he wants to argue about taps, let it go son, let it go

    Back to the 37%. if 37% was the leave figure, would you happen to know the percentage that voted to remain? I'll give you a hint, it will be less :D
     
    #29125 noobie, Mar 25, 2019
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  6. Unlike the snp whose only policy is anyone but the English and so indi 2 as indi 1 didn't give us the result we wanted? just checkin :upyeah:
     
  7. No one has yet convinced me that Indy was ever about Independence for Scotchland.
    I always saw it as a bargaining tool for more and greater devolution.

    Indy 2 won't be about Independence for Scotchland, either - it will be about becoming a region of the EU authority (rather than remaining a region of the English authority).
     
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  8. The funny thing is, as we have seen on here. When we leave, all the powers the U.K. gave to the eu, will come back to the U.K. from that, quite a few specific to Scotland were going to be handed to the devolved Scottish government, as were the Welsh devolved government and the N.I. devolved governments to get additional powers when thepowers come back, the rascals.

    The snp has claimed by the U.K. being given back the powers from the eu, then the U.K. is performing a power grab of powers the devolved governments never had BUT, if we do as Nic and the snp insist and remain, then the eu keeping the powers Scotland never had but would have been given, is not a power grab

    It's never been about the Scottish people and never will be for the snp, never
     
    #29128 noobie, Mar 25, 2019
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  9. NOoooo...
    I voted leave!
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  10. See the Trump thread just now for an explanation (Left/globalists).
     
    #29130 Loz, Mar 25, 2019
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  11. I really hope you a correct about the UK and WTO!
    But there will not be a border in Ireland - nor Scotchland either unless the EU dictators build one ;) but Scotchland won't vote to leave as Finm is too lil to follow :eyes:
     
  12. Just contacted HMRC with regards to import declarations following 29th of March.
    They could not advise if the above is required or not. HMRC doesn't know on 25th of March if there would be a duty or at least an import declaration to be made on 29th of March.
    I assume if the Article 50 is extended, there shouldn't be any declaration required? However, according to the person I chat with things are changing on daily basis.
    Smooth transition?? f'cking useless government/Parliament arguing with itself for 2 years.
     
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  13. Arguing or plotting to stay in? :thinkingface:
     
  14. Agree, this has been more the remaining parliament spending nearly 3 years trying to stop the leave vote and little more.
     
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  15. Just tried to book a lorry to go and pick up 10 pallets on Thursday from Hungary and they refused not knowing if they have to do custom declaration.(same lorry loaded 13 pallets of goods I sent out by us from UK last Saturday) They advised that DHL and Dachser stopped all bulk deliveries until next Monday.
    Therefore contacted HMRC for clarification...they haven't got a clue.(shame I did not save the transcript) so in simple terms..HMRC hasn't got a clue with 4 days before due date if import declarations are required or not.
    If I don't book today the goods will turn up late, we cannot meet our commitments.
     
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  16. If the UK Government had planned for a WTO exit, businesses and HMRC would doubtless know what they should do on 29 March.

    If the EU had offered a decent deal in place of WTO, businesses and HMRC would doubtless know what they should do on 29 March.

    The UK Government has tried to stay in the EU without telling the electorate, so businesses and HMRC have no fucking clue what they should do on 29 March.

    Edit: March, not April. i have April on the brain today.
     
    #29136 Loz, Mar 25, 2019
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  17. Have they? Why not blame TM for not consulting the Parliament before "agreeing" a deal with the EU.
    TBH I don't give a toss anymore who is to blame, just need some clarification along with probably 1000's of other businesses that are "hang in the air" waiting for some firm confirmation from HMRC
    The sad thing is that HMRC doesn't know 4 days before the due date is import declarations are required or not.
    The one I can blame is the government...but they are busy keeping the Tories in power.
     
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  18. I agree she's been shit and we should have had a leave prime minister and a leave complete negotiating team, suggesting this is just the tories mess whilst labour block it in parliament is a bit disengenuous given labour said they would block any deal by the tories rather than be seen to help them.

    As to your pallet issue, surely as current rules remain and your supplier is refusing, then your beef should be with the supplier. Get them sent under the current and in place rules
     
  19. The EU agreed the deal TM came up with...maybe she should have not presented something without her own Parliament backing?
    It is all the time been easier to blame others...our politicans got lazy in the last 10-15 years, since all the work(deals) was done by Bruxelles.
     
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  20. Yes, that is my logic as well, because Art 50 is extended nothing should change when it comes to import declaration until 22nd of May...but when HMRC cannot confirm this in writing things get tricky.
    Edited: Parliament is in stalemate.
     
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