British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Really? As I remember Thatcher was kicked to the kerb by her own team.
     
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  2. Which sounds fine but in the U.K.'s case, the people they represent can remove them, in the eu they cannot, how is that better for the people?
     
  3. Bring back Winston I say regardless of whatever party he happens to be a member of at the time. Arguably this is our country’s darkest hour right now :(
     
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  4. Yes but that was only after the Party found that the could no longer hide her insanity from the Country.
     
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  5. noob. its a movie. a holywood blockbuster. did you get all worked up when Dunkirk was released?, is there a wee battle of brittain being replayed in yer head? i bet there is.
    move on sunshine.

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  6. Anyone know why the papers are reporting that ‘The prime minister said a no-deal withdrawal on April 12 was the ‘default option’ if the deal was rejected.’
    Isn’t it still 29th March 2019 in UK Law?
    Or is UK Law subservient to EU Directives and M. Junkers opinions?
     
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  7. it is still the 29th yes, and requires both parliament and the house of lords votes to agree and change it.
     
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  8. It would be nice of people could look forward and not backwards, even hundreds of years some go back :D
     
  9. No you have it wrong. They offer you a choice of different policies, they do not give you a say in those policies.

    They give you a choice of what THEY think is the best way to run the Country. Its up to you to decide if that is what you want or someone else offers something better.
     
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  10. The HoC voted for an extension last week; May agreed extension with the EU.
     
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  11. Policies like upholding the result of the referendum ?
     
  12. I accepted Brexit was going to happen a long time ago and a few months ago I realised it was mostly likely to be on no deal terms.

    I also accept that there are pluses and minuses to both leave and remain

    What I don’t accept is that we will be better off out of the EU. Because we won’t be. Doesn’t mean it is a reason to not vote leave though. Some people will happily be worse off for the benefit of “full autonomy”. Whatever that means in 2019, in a world dominated by globalisation. We will maybe find out though, if we go out on no deal
     
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  13. Independence from the EU is closer to my preference of smaller government than EU membership.

    You cannot expect to effectively fight globalisation from "within" (as we've had amply demonstrated to us over the past two years) ... as an independent, sovereign nation, you can at least hope to weather the storm until the World comes back to its senses and rejects rampant corporatism.

    The term "better off" is so hopelessly vague and ambiguous, it has been an impediment to the Brexit conversation this whole time.
     
  14. Yes, agreed, but neither of those actually changes UK Law which presently says we leave on Friday and isn’t conditional on any Deal.

    My question remains whether EU agreement to TM’s proposed extension overrules UK Law?

    Otherwise the Houses of Commons and Lords need to get their skates on to approve a Statutory Instrument presented by a Cabinet Minister to change the date in UK Law?
     
  15. The current informed thinking that I have been following is that EU Law over-rides UK Law in this matter and that 12 April is the current Leave date.

    I guess we shall see on Saturday : o )
     
  16. That’s interesting, because the UK Law withdraws several existing Acts, so we may fall into a rather messy limbo.
     
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  17. Just give them a quick phone call to let them know, eh? ;)
     
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  18. The indicative votes could help May. She has in effect, been placed in europes position by saying to the house, " You keep telling us what you don't want but you need to tell us what you do want" so now it's time for mp's to put up or shut up.

    I suspect they won't do anything other than agree to what they don't want again.
     
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  19. I think they just want to keep voting, it must be fun for them.

    Having more votes and taking no deal off the table seem to be the only things they agree on.

    Wait - do they get paid extra for voting ?
     
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  20. I’d like to think the QCs amongst them know more about the Law than me, but I’m interested whether we are already in effect a vassal State?
     
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