The EU is not a single country. It is a collection of formerly autonomous countries being sucked into a proto-empire which is intent upon acquiring sovereign nations and wearing the skins of the conquered people for clothing. Whereas - The UK is a single country. I am pleased and proud to have been able to assist you in this matter. aww, bless, check out the metroplaining. . claim of right 1698 Act of union 1707 2 countries in a political union. a contract, if broken, can be rescinded. it has been several times of late. and will be tested if a section 30 isn't forthcoming. claim of right reaffirmed in the UK parliament in 2018. assuming the tanks from Germany don't come rolling in first.. wtf are you on?
Even the Chamber of Commerce is laying in to them this morning telling them they are doing untold damage to the economy and Britain's reputation as a respected business partner. Who the fuck will want to do trade deals with this bunch of cnuts? An election or new referendum is the only way out of this now.
Maybe this will be the direction of travel and could lead to a softer position that we could move from after a few years. It does though remove our trade deal opportunities. For an overview, this is worth a read: Customs Union This is a highly protectionist body which stops us cutting our own UK-specific trade deals. Remaining in the Customs Union would prevent the UK from pursuing a genuinely free trade agenda. Outside the Customs Union, the EU will no longer have “exclusive competence” over Britain’s trading arrangements. That means we can negotiate our own trade deals, to the benefit of UK commercial interests and our broader economy. As such, we can position ourselves far better with the much faster-growing and more dynamic areas of the world economy across the non-EU - not least the large emerging markets where we may already have a language in common, shared institutional practices or other historical ties. Even while we remain in the EU during the Article 50 period, the new Department for International Trade is legally entitled to negotiate such deals on a “Heads of Terms” basis - as long as they are enacted only once we have left. 10 Since our Brexit vote, numerous countries have shown interest in a bilateral UK trade deal, including Australia, Brazil, Canada and the US. Indeed, the signs are that, when it comes to striking a FTA with the US, Britain is now “at the front of the queue”. 11 It is impossible to make significant progress in such negotiations, though, when our non-EU counterparts do not know if the UK will be inside or outside either the Single Market or Customs Union once we have left. That is another reason we should make clear now, that on exiting the EU, we will be outside both, allowing the UK economy to negotiate in good faith, so benefiting from non-EU FTAs as soon as possible after the Article 50 period ends in March 2019. 12 10 – Clean Brexit One argument often cited for remaining in the Customs Union is that we remain party to, and so benefit from, existing trade deals negotiated by the EU. Yet such deals are relatively inconsequential in size. Despite years of trying, the EU has no trade deal with either the US or China - the world’s two largest economies - not least because the objectives of the various EU nations so often conflict.13 Although the EU has agreed some 53 FTAs, these have been mainly with very small countries. The combined GDP of the nations involved is just one tenth of the world economy. Such EU trade deals that have been struck are, moreover, far from UK-oriented. The EU’s negotiating approach has long been to “gold plate” agriculture and protect it at all costs - given the overwhelming influence of the Franco-Benelux axis. Yet agriculture is just 0.6 per cent of the UK economy, less than a third that of France. As one of 28 members, the UK’s requirements when EU-level trade deals are struck - not least the promotion of trade in services - have not figured highly.
Old enough to pay tax old enough to drink in the Scotland then, remind me what is the age of drinking in scotland again? silly argument. This is how every election has been run, there is an issue to be dealt with, it gets put out to vote, the rules of engagement are declared in advance, now vote. my point is based in accuracy and yours is fanciful. The concept of the franchise was fair and simple... I do wish the northern members for the the party of victimhood who only cried foul not when they voted, but only when they lost , would agree.
Disagree with this. I think parliament might finally be moving in the right direction and will deliver a soft brexit. A confirmation vote, maybe...but they will have to be very careful with that one! Damage to our reputation has already happened, thanks to May and the wannabe puppet masters. Neither party has a clear Brexit/or remain policy that voters or party members can get behind. All I could see from another election is more division in the UK and probably no clear winner. Things have been nasty enough already. It could only work if both main parties had new leaders. May? Corbyn? I cant see how anyone can back them.
The Pound is today worth 1.17 euros,continuing it's generally upward trend since January. Up just over 2% since last nights close on a couple of currency websites. According to various internet reports this is nothing to do with Brexit. These sources report that the World Bank is claiming that 19 EU countries have uncontrollable debt,and that Germany/France are at high risk of slipping into recession. If true,I'm not celebrating,I feel sorry for the man/woman in the street who suffers,(as we all do),the consequences of political incompetence.
I mentioned the eu border force that is due to increase in 2020 from 1,500 to 10,000 and to be funded and controlled from brussels but will work in all nation countries without being accountable in those countries. All be it in the express, another in the eu video of guy https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...-military-US-Jean-Claude-Juncker-latest-video
I think you will find we are 4 countries. Scotland joining the Union of nations through the Act of Union which like any act of Parliament can be repealed. Like most countries, Scotland has its own legal system and its own legal jurisdiction.
You better tell the Americans and the EU that one of their pillars of democracy is wrong then No taxation without representation
You appear to have lost all sense of the discussion here? Take a deep breath and have a lie down perhaps?
So what is the next move? How MPs voted Confirmatory referendum - For: 268 Against: 295 Customs union - For: 264 Against: 272 Labour's Brexit plan - For: 237 Against: 307 Common Market 2.0 - For: 188 Against: 283 Revoking Article 50 to avoid no deal - For: 184 Against: 293 No-deal exit on 12 April - For: 160 Against: 400 Malthouse Plan B - For: 139 Against: 422 EFTA and EEA membership - For: 65 Against: 377
Customs union (proposal J) was the one that obvious voting numbers aside, seemed to get people going in parliament. Zero appetite for no deal, there seemed a lack of appetite for cancelling Brexit also. Much closer than the governments botched plans got after lots of whipping and back room deals. Tune in Monday for the next episode!
Yep. But remember the number of times they ran away from making decisions...pay back time! Considering the Governments lack of majority I am amazed they have stumbled this far. Hopefully parliament will now be able to operate as a 'democracy' (the word loved by Brexiteers) and find a Brexit solution that is palatable to the majority.
FACT CHECK.... About 28.5% of the MP's that voted "DO WANT No Deal on the 12th April and 71.5% voted that they didn't, so a lot more than Zero. About 38.5% of the MP's that voted did want to revoke article 50..... and 61.5% voted that they didn't. Also note these were particular actions on certain dates, this may have influenced how MP's voted.
