British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. I'd like them to organise grassroots witch hunts and fight each other to the death in unarmed combat or on horseback. This added to voters abandoning them for all their lies and failiures should hopefully mean they are smashed & never recover.
     
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  2. Another view might be that " the lying, duplicitous Torys" need to be removed, and Labour are facing up to their obligation to achieve that.

    Labour throughout this Brexit fiasco have always sought a compromise. Maybe you don't want a compromise and I understand that, but its what you will get ultimately - its the best there is. Ask your wife!
     
  3. Removing the lying, duplicitous MPs won’t leave many.
     
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  4. Labour have persistently “sat on the fence” to try to be seen as both Remain and Leave at the same time in different constituencies. They have also voted against “A Tory Deal” because it’s not theirs, no matter what it is.
     
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  5. Ken Clarke gets my respect.
     
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  6. I think it's fair to say that the problem with the Tories is not simply their Leader. It is plain to me that any number of Tory MPs could replace May and we as citizens would scarcely notice the difference.

    Members of the ERG attempting to argue that the WA is preferable to No-Brexit? What do they think they are shovelling there?
    Nick Boles, Dominic Grieve, Amber Rudd, the numerous nameless NPC MPs that support whatever the Leadership of the Party says without a thought for the manifesto on which they stood (I include my own MP, Nick Gibb in this - useless drone that he is). This 2017 manifesto wasn't like the usual, "We will create jobs, heal the sick and leap tall buildings" the norml wooly-minded bullshit. This manifesto was "Leave the EU, the CU, the SM, control our fishing grounds, etc etc etc).
    The Tory leadership now won't allow Grieve's constituency to deselect him - Grieve is one of the boys and the Tories look after their own.

    From top to bottom, the Tory party is an anti-democratic sewer. I briefly toyed with the idea that they can be fixed from within but really, they are indistinguishable from the EU - utterly un-reformable and completely unpalatable. I suggest they be abandoned in toto. Any decent MPs they have (or at least, any which aren't utterly corrupt) can seek a home in one of the smaller, emergent parties.

    Cage matches will be cheaper and also ensure no escapees.

    You get points for style though, for sure.
     
  7. Boris or Ress-Mogg please.?.
     
  8. Yes they do need removing.
    It hasn’t been clear to me what Labour want.
    I think it’s one of those situations where a compromise is almost impossible - any ‘deal’ will effectively mean we are tied to the Eu somehow, which won’t keep Brexiteers happy.

    I asked my wife, she’s been laying on the floor laughing for about 20 mins - why ?
     
  9. Semi for me
     
  10. I really hate to say this, but the SNP are the only party to have a clear, and consistent message, a bit like a monks chant. ... over and over, always the same.
     
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  11. I was about to reply what Darkness said below.

    Labour is an unmitigated, unqualified disaster. Sneaky, vague and yes, sitting-on-the-fence. Unscrupulous. Led by a terrorist sympathiser who hates the West and fetishises every violent, revolutionary lunatic fringe on the planet.
    If Labour gets in power, you had all best learn how to prepare long pig in way that is safe for consumption.

    Ken Clarke is principled and does not lie.

    He is also a senile, sad, old shitter who is ten, maybe twenty, years past his sell-by date. He needs to retire and stop wasting Parliament's (and my) time.
    Sorry for any distress this information causes.
     
  12. Mildly interested then. Each to their own!
     
  13. Option 2, fix it.
     
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  14. Simply not true. Labour have offerred to vote for Mays Deal, provided she will gurantee a second referendum for the public to confirm its what they actually want.
     
  15. Didn’t they offer that and then vote against it though ?
     
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  16. People with vested interests will always tell you that every option apart from the one they favor is impossible. Compromise will happen.
     
    #29876 Jez900ie, Mar 31, 2019
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  17. The Tories voted against it...
     
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  18. There’s been so many I can’t remember who wants what
     
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  19. You better hope you are wrong 'cause you might be about to find out - and I don't mean about Ken! Incidentally longpig got the crew of the Essex home in fine fettle.
     
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  20. I’m with @Alan williams wasnt there an indicative vote a week or so ago for another referendum where the labour whip was to vote against it whilst beforehand Corbyn had been saying we must have another referendum? I remember thinking ‘that’s just bizarre’ at the time, but then nothing’s bizarre in this process anymore.
     
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