In my small little world everyone I know that voted leave was expecting to just leave (no deals). I genuinely would like to hear from someone that voted leave and has changed their minds as to why
Have you always want to leave Alan? Never thought the country was doing well in the EU? How about you @Loz
The country was being bled, used as a cash cow, being transformed from its traditional Britishness into a cosmopolitan London-bubble mess, being subjected to internal laws not of its own making, losing control of its Armed Forces and was headed towards loss of status as an independent nation. No. The UK was not doing well. It's not just about the money, you know (sorry if I have frightened any socialists here by saying that). Please. Someone answer Alan's question!
Since I took an interest I have thought leave. Difficult to judge if the U.K. has done well in the Eu, or even if being in the Eu has been a big influence. U.K. governments have probably, to me, done more harm than good in some cases. I don’t know details but selling off council houses, not encouraging apprenticeships etc etc. To a certain extent I have thought for a long while that the only people really affected by who is in government is the very rich and the very poor. I think the European Union becoming the European Project is a bad thing.
I originally wanted to vote Leave because I wanted to Leave the EU. I have changed my mind. I now want to Leave PLUS cause Theresa May to lose her hair, too. I believe this is achievable.
As usual, Parliament is out of touch with the electorate (unlike Joe Biden). Not so. I am losing my hair and I am pretty sure it is all May's fault. Sounds like karma to me.
So you took an interest when the Referendum came up, or before? I'm guessing @Loz always hated the EU since birth. PS I can't answer your question. I've never voted Leave.
Your guess is wildly, and genuinely, wrong. A dig through the forum will reveal, before the 2016 Referendum was announced, that I was of the opinion that anyone, anyone at all, was preferable to Westminster to lead our country. The EU was preferable. I may even have suggested Putin at one point, that is how much I held Westminster in contempt. The Referendum was discussed and ultimately announced. At this point, I did a deep dive (relatively) into the matter of the EU Project, watching clips of EU leaders speaking, looking for sources of info beyond the MSM, finding out what the EU was about, how it operated, how it treated member states and the populations that make them up. My horror at what I found lead me to believe that Westminster, against all expectation, was the lesser of two evils. No one was more astonished than me : o D
Not much interest before to be honest. Probably only looking for info following a headline of some description (don’t often trust headlines). No, I’m hoping someone can. Happy to be proved wrong, but I do think the ‘didn’t know what we’re voting for’ argument is a remain voters argument.
Well unless all the polling is wrong -way wrong- and it might be, the math says that if more people wanted Leave at the referendum and now by a fair margin +6%, they want to Remain (swing of 9%) someone has changed their mind!
I can hand on heart say to you that no matter what the polling says - even it is saying something I'd like to believe - polling is useless as a tool for determining likely outcomes. There can be no doubt of this, after the 2016 Ref/US Presidential election polling figures vs results.
As I’ve said before, I voted Remain in the referendum. It’s the dismissive and offhand manner in which we’ve been treated by the EU leaders that has prompted me to look at our membership. The terms of the Lisbon Treaty which T. Blair and G. Brown committed us without consultation, appalls me and I now believe we should permit the EU no control over our laws, treaties or world trade. I’m happy to continue to co-operate with them, but on mutually agreed terms. I also suspect the Euro is damaged beyond fixing and Germany can’t afford the liabilities it imposes on them.
