Hah! Silly shouting from two guys who after two years or more should have learnt better. Some interesting questions at 11.0 though.
There's a Sunderland Nissan worker on here, let's ask him... @Robarano You do realise the EU's deal with Japan has just signed the closure of the Honda plant in Swindon don't you. They did the same with Turkey and UK Ford Manufacturing. What's your point exactly?
I was highlighting the sensible guy in the middle of the thread, but yes, a lot of silliness from all sides. A quick Brexit and a subsequent quick deal to benefit the EU and the UK should have been so simple
I'm guessing it was 2nd april 2016. Checked their facebook and twitter pages but can't find it, perhaps El can enlighten the source?
I see Antonye has scuttled off all embarrassed at his futile contribution - but he'll be back with more pish soon
You scared off Shadow, you scared off Ant (and Ant was ever bit as funny as Shadow!). You are a bad bad man, Elise. *frownface*
Oi. Leave me out of it. I don't come in here anymore. I briefly have a peek, but all I ever see is.................
Germany and France were the first countries to implement VAT, doing so in the form of a general consumption tax during World War I.[5] The modern variation of VAT was first implemented by France in 1954 in Ivory Coast (Côte d'Ivoire) colony. Recognizing the experiment as successful, the French introduced it in 1958.[5] Maurice Lauré, Joint Director of the France Tax Authority, the Direction Générale des Impôts implemented the VAT on 10 April 1954, although German industrialist Dr. Wilhelm von Siemens proposed the concept in 1918. Initially directed at large businesses, it was extended over time to include all business sectors. In France, it is the most important source of state finance, accounting for nearly 50% of state revenues.[6] A 2017 study found that the adoption of VAT is strongly linked to countries with corporatist institutions. In the United Kingdom, the value-added tax (or value added tax, VAT) was introduced in 1973 and is the third-largest source of government revenue, after income tax and National Insurance. It is administered and collected by HM Revenue and Customs, primarily through the Value Added Tax Act 1994. The Purchase Tax was replaced by VAT in April 1973 when Britain joined the European Union. At the beginning it was a standard 10% rate on most goods and services. In the decades since then, what has changed is the rates at which it is charged and for which products and its complexity. The amount of VAT is decided by the state as percentage of the end-market price. As its name suggests, value-added tax is designed to tax only the value added by a business on top of the services and goods it can purchase from the market. To understand what this means, consider a production process (e.g., take-away coffee starting from coffee beans) where products get successively more valuable at each stage of the process. When an end-consumer makes a purchase, they are not only paying for the VAT for the product at hand (e.g., a cup of coffee), but in effect, the VAT for the entire production process (e.g., the purchase of the coffee beans, their transportation, processing, cultivation, etc.), since VAT is always included in the prices. The value-added effect is achieved by prohibiting end-consumers from recovering VAT on purchases, but permitting businesses to do so. The VAT collected by the state is computed as the difference between the VAT of sales earnings and the VAT of those goods and services upon which the product depends. The difference is the tax due to the value added by the business. In this way, the total tax levied at each stage in the economic chain of supply is a constant fraction. From various sources,inc.Wikipedia
Oh dear. Some of us have jobs to do you know! At least, some of us do until Brexit is enacted... if it gets enacted at all. I see that the usual MO of "it's photoshop!", "he's a remainer really!", "this is all the fault of remainers!" is still being spewed. Aw diddums isn't getting it all their way because they have got no more of a fucking clue than those in charge of this shitshow. Wake up and smell the bullshit that was shovelled your way by the Leave campaign!
