I have a business that purchases form the USA and the UK and I sell all over Europe - but I still think we are better leaving the EU, even though my personal circumstances are temporarily worse off. I see this purely down to the cocking about by the establishment for the last 3 years, and not the fact we were supposed to have left the EU. My reasoning is based on sensible business economics which every Remainer on here loves to ignore and also the fact that the EU council are cock heads
Its not necessarily true though is it? We are both worse off right now, that's not sensible business economics. And neither of us know when it's going to settle down. So we can't plan for it. I agree, eventually UK will be better off out. But I might be dead before the country sees the benefits. We opened a 2nd warehouse in Germany in July 2017 as a way to develop our business. We had planned to do it in 2019 but did not expect to accelerate it forward so quickly after Brexit. We would see a significant drop in EU trade if our EU customers all had to pay import duties, VAT and those wonderful courier handling charges. We also don't like the customs paperwork and the delays on delivery in countries where our products have to pass through customs. We have on occasion, refunded customers because some just won't leave us alone when their products are stuck. Frictionless trade for consumers is really important. One third of our business was to the EU before we opened here. We didn't want to lose any of that.
You are ignoring simple business economics I'm afraid and tying that together with the ridiculous establishment stance on Brexit over the last 3 years.
Eh? I own a business. It's suffering. You said yours was too. Business facts, forget the hype. And the text books.
The answer? 1,018,322 Scots voted to leave the eu which is more than the 977,569 Scots who voted for the snp in the 2017 general election. Funny old world
Within the last 7 days, trump has put up tariffs upto 25% on items from China, Today China has recipricated, would you ask them to return to a time when their leaders were different too? Business has to adapt to world events and brexit is just one of those Two points, the licensing difficulty appears to be on the Frenchy side and two, if you live in France, well, Many brexiteers said at the time, this isn't for us as such but more for our kids and grandkids leads onto But haven't you avoided those charges by setting up a second company in Germany thus avoiding those "pains" as you will have operations both in the U.K. and europe? By your above admission two thirds of your trade ? was outside of the eu, do you have to use customs charges/papers and tariffs for those?
You are missing the point - we should not have been through the last 3 years of EU / May bullshit. For the UK with a massive trade deficit with the EU and the EU's biggest customer it could only have ended up one way for us - if we had left... I think you need to read from page 1 so we don't have to go through all the detail for the 1000th time - you are being too personal I'm afraid. I also have a Czech wife in Czech (and family) living apart which also affects my finances short term - but it's not because of the Brexit vote...
Trump just needs to fuck off. Trade wars are not the answer. Of course the French are behaving unreasonably, egged on departmentally by Macron, who is a granny-shagging cunt. But it is all Brexit-related. Without Brexit, I would have had my new driving license by now. Ironic then that the kids mostly gave Brexit the finger. One third of business from Uk warehouse was in UK, one third was EU, one third was rest of world. You can see the sliding scale there. The further away you are from the customer and the more barriers you put in front of them, the less they buy from you. As Exige said, it's sensible business economics. So yes we have to do some paperwork on a fair amount of our parcels, it's bollocks. I hate it. Puts about 3 minutes on a fulfillment, and even then you wonder if it will get through, as they do not always. had one back from Russia last week, one from South Africa last month. We have made big and risky steps to avoid the Brexit problems. Other companies have not. Our Uk competitors are floundering, well a couple are. Good news for us in the short-term, not so good for the biker consumer.
Yes, May can fuck off too. The macroeconomics is no longer relevant. I' making personal points because it is happening, and it is brexit that did it. what's your Czech family got to do with this? my kids are here with me in France and they also are affecting my finances in the short-term. Nothing to do with brexit either. Little bastards have to eat. And Heinz beans here are 1 euro 50. Robbing cunts.
Businesses did not get a vote in the referendum,people did. And 17.4 million people felt that they had a better future outside the EU than in it. My business may suffer a bit if we (ever) leave,but at the end of the day this is about the country,not me,and certainly not my or anyone elses business. I've seen numerous British industries go downhill since we entered the EC/then EU-those people suffered far more than we ever will. And anyway all of us may have done better if we'd not joined,but hey,no one can prove what might-have beens any more than they can look into the future. And I've said this before:none of my Swiss or German customers are remotely concerned about the impact of a possible Brexit, nor are the Americans whose products I store and transport to demos and exhibitions. I don't think I exist in a tiny bubble inhabited by optimistic business people,but I suppose it's possible. The bottom line is that the majority of UK citizens who got off their arses on referendum day voted to leave the EU,and those of us who operate and manage companies will roll with the punches and deal with whatever comes along. That is how we earn our corn.
The German estate agent I got the warehouse through did it to me when i told him it was all his country's fault!
